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[–] ec69f4c200b442f59e9f 1 point 90 points (+91|-1) ago 

If I was running Voat I'd just put text only Google ads on the site and offer a subscription of say a few dollars a month to support Voat and not have ads.

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[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 38 points (+38|-0) ago 

I think that's a good idea. I don't think a mandatory subscription would be a good idea because it would be a paywall to potential users, but a subscription for an ad-free experience might be a good way for users to pay for Voat directly.

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[–] PraiseIPU 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

but then google would be making more money and you'd be supporting a company that is against Voats ideals

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[–] Lt_Riza_Hawkeye 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

I'm probably just uninformed but what does Google do that would be against Voat's ideas?

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[–] ec69f4c200b442f59e9f 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If Voat doesn't like google then they could pick a different ad supplier. I don't know if there's another good text only ad supplier though, and I don't think Voat has the employees to do ad sales itself.

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[–] newbieatthegym 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

This, a bit like Twitch Turbo.

I would happily pay.

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[–] BRockShooter 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

This is actually a surprisingly good idea. It would be even better if we could pair it with a payment system that doesn't require crypto-currency.

Crypto-currency such as BitCoin can be hard to come by for a lot of users, especially those who haven't a clue as how to get any. For one, like what I've seen a few users over at /v/voatdev have been saying, crypto-currency wallets and accounts are kind of a pain of the butt to get started whereas straightforward debit/credit card payments are more easier and favorable by most online users.

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[–] BRockShooter 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

They can also add cute Voat goat plushies to the product line up. :)

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[–] icenine 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

You're absolutely right. The reason reddit is doing this commercialization thing is because it had to. It's been losing money forever with its minimally invasive ads. Trying to make ads work here is probably just going to spell doom for the site, just like for reddit. I think this site taking a Wikipedia donations type route would be ideal.

I've already donated a good $30 to this site over the various calls for support, but I know I'm an outlier. More defined goals would be ideal.

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[–] 1203189? 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'm with you on the advertising thing. I'd rather buy merch or pay a small fee. Back when I was on Fark constantly, I payed for TotalFark. On reddit, I paid for gold until I decided I was leaving.

I'd pay to float the Goat. http://worth1000.s3.amazonaws.com/submissions/376000/376281_072c_1024x2000.jpg

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[–] christy 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I would buy a voat plushie and tshirt for sure.

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[–] MrMongoose 2 points 38 points (+40|-2) ago 

This could be a terrible idea - but what about leaving ad decisions up to subverses mods? Let them organize what ads are available and where/how they are displayed and then give them a percent of revenue. Then A) mods make some money, B) Mods have incentive to keep up the quality of their subverses, C) Choices are made by people who best know their subscribers, and D) Advertisers pick which subs and what content they support. If every subverses is it's own ecosystem then Advertisers would be less likely to complain about what is happening elsewhere on the site.

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[–] kingkongsdingdong 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

I think this is the best idea here yet assuming enough could be made off ads to support the site and still have a cut for the mods. I'm guessing mods wouldn't be paid much, but ads would be way more tolerable if customized for each sub individually.

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[–] ichuckle 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I even think that individual subs would embrace ads if they weren't too invasive and knew that the sub itself got to control the ad content. I wonder if this idea has ever been discussed before

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[–] omegletrollz ago 

Would be probably better for mods not to be paid in real cash but some symbolic currency which they can use to acquire badges, free merchandise on the future, site-wide ads for their own subs... Anything that is not real money, at least for now.

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[–] ghotioninabarrel 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

That's actually a cool idea. Would also encourage people to make more subs and reward the best subs that people come back to.

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[–] RedEyedDragon ago 

This is the best idea so far. I would suggest sending them an email.

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[–] the-code-always-wins ago 

I am concerned about giving subverse mods a % of revenue. That could end badly as subverses would have a monetary value that could be bought and sold.

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[–] navghuman99 1 point 16 points (+17|-1) ago 

Sell some funny merchandise with Voat on it.

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[–] PiercingAjarDolphin 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I second this, because I'd definitely like some cutesy stuff with Voat and a goat on it.

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[–] zonal 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

If you crochet, you can make a Voat Goat with the free pattern here: https://voat.co/v/Crochet/comments/295551

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[–] Klaxon ago 

Surely there are some graphic artists here who would donate some time to this.

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[–] Arotaes_Forgehammer 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago 

Unobtrusive and tasteful ads.

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[–] PraiseIPU 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

tasteful is the problem

it's funny how Imgur made their money initially with porn and clickbait ads now they are all SJW

anyway porn has proven they will advertise anywhere. Can they make ads w/o being raunchy?

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[–] losian 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Throwing the sjw around so freely is really making it a pointless buzzword, you folks are really jerkin' that so hard. imgur monetized, it's not SJW it's everyday business. Paypal doesn't want porn and adult because business, it's pretty normal to distancd oneself business wise from those things, it's not "SJW".

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[–] SpaceRosa 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Dependency on them, though, would give Voat the same weakness that a lot of site have. Contact the sponsors, give them the old "You want to be associated with this, I'll never buy from you again" and they pull it, no more money, no more site. Just look at Gamergate emailing sponsors to kick Kotaku and the like into shape.

With a website that will no doubt end up with some very controversial content, it's a vulnerability I wouldn't suggest having if it can be avoided. As an extra, perhaps, but not something to be depended on.

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[–] Arotaes_Forgehammer 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

True. I honestly don't like the idea of "Voat Gold" though, and I don't think donation will bring in enough money.

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[–] Arotaes_Forgehammer ago 

I do agree with that.

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[–] reshp1 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

The biggest issue is not having a universally accessible way to donate. Plenty of us want to support, but don't do bit coin.

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[–] nosliwhtes 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Try out Circle. You can buy bitcoin with credit card or bank account. It's intuitive and functions similarly to paypal.

Link should work now!

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[–] andwhy 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Your link doesn't work :p

Edit: Now works.

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[–] Techman ago 

There are plenty of places out there that can help you out in the UX department -- one of the most popular is coinbase

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[–] omegletrollz ago 

Universal donating + monthly/annual membership. Membership doesn't even have to give you any benefits (perhaps a badge for certain total donated). It would just be a suggestion for how much you should donate in a month or year.

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[–] OftenTooRude 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

When I read the goat proposal, —which could help people, but which doesn't really help sustain voat—, I remembered hearing about Muhammad Yunus and all of these concepts:

It occurred to me that there might be an opportunity to support voat and needier people too – because it's not a zero-sum game. Picture this:

  1. Users buy VoatGoats (or fractions thereof EDIT: alternative name: Goat Certificates), which could be similar to reddit gold, except:

  2. That money is used to micro-invest, to extend microcredits to people who are trying to better their business, especially in developing countries (if nothing else, then for the practical reason that a small loan will go a lot further there). Maybe some will better their business by buying actual goats.

  3. Depending on the success of those microcredits, some of, all of, or even all of the money plus a modest interest will return to voat, where it then pays for servers and keeping the lights on.

The only downside I see to an idea like that is that it might be difficult to set up (Maybe start here? I dunno.), and there would be quite some time until the money is actually back with voat and available for paying the bills. Of course, it would theoretically be possible to take out a loan, but taking out a non-ethical banking loan against an ethical banking investment would probably not work out well and defeat the purpose and wipe out the earnings.

EDIT: Reddit gold has already proven that some users are willing and able to part with cash to reward content/comments they approve of (and to support "their" site). Voat Goat Certificates would add the incentive that they'd be giving others a hand (not a handout). Plus, it would make Voat a lot less assailable. Even if a (media) organisation hates free speech because it's competition, and because "think of the children", are they really going to lobby and run a hit-piece against those people who give Third Worlders a leg up?

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[–] pingas-9000 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I wouldn't mind if the sidebar had a couple of ads.

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[–] Techman 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

That's why it's important to not rely on advertisements as your primary source of revenue. Reddit should have done something about that before it became too large.

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