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[–] JesTheRed 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago  (edited ago)

For the regular user? Nothing at all.

For spying governments? It was specifically, intentionally written for them.

It's pretty obvious. No company ever gives away anything it could just as easily sell. Something/someone is subsidizing its rollout, the same way the federal government supplies pre-configured high-dollar core routers to telcos. They're smart enough not to just demand something, they make it worth the company's while to do what's asked of them.

Windows 10 just fits the era too well, and is being given away. Very clearly bad for everybody not smart enough to steer clear.

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[–] noep 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

For spying governments? It was specifically, intentionally written for them.

I'm not saying you're wrong but do you have some evidence to back this claim up? Or is this pure conjecture on your part?

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[–] JesTheRed 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Not yet, but given time it'll all be more than obvious. Microsoft switching to a free model, even if only for a moment, means they'll be covered under what is becoming a very solid truism on the Internet:

"If you're not paying for it, you ARE the product."

http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/futureoftheinternet/2012/03/21/meme-patrol-when-something-online-is-free-youre-not-the-customer-youre-the-product/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/marketshare/2012/03/05/if-youre-not-paying-for-it-you-become-the-product/

http://lifehacker.com/5697167/if-youre-not-paying-for-it-youre-the-product

Now who might be paying MS for unfettered access to data?

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[–] noep 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

They also want to make sure everyone knows they're sorry for how bad Windows 8 was

Lol, good one.

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[–] Voluptuous_Panda 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

So when it comes out, you have the option of installing it or not right? It won't automatically install? I signed up for it when I first heard about it because I didn't like windows 8.1 much, but the more I find out about it, the more I'd rather stick with 8.1.

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[–] JesTheRed 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yes, the only reason they set up a "preorder" system is to judge the expected rollout load and build the right size infrastructure for it. You can use the same tool you used to secure your upgrade to cancel it.

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[–] SkepticalSquirrel [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Do you think MS would do something like this given all the worry about privacy. I mean if someone found a back door the public backlash would be out of control.

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[–] JesTheRed 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I actually do. Money > backlash, and CEO's/politicians are caring less and less about getting caught, because realistically it won't really impact their bottom line. There are, simply put, enough fully ignorant people in the world that even if MS got caught grinding up poor children to create the superfluous packaging for W10 it'd cost them no more than 1% of sales. Wholesale violation of privacy won't even cost them a day of business.

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[–] TauPhi 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

As someone that is using a windows 10 preview build right now, things that are nice:

  • Multiple Desktops
  • Updated Graphics
  • Cortana Integration
  • Seamless flow between metro and desktop
  • Improved keyboard shortcuts for moving windows around the screen

Probably some other stuff that I'm forgetting because I'm just used to it now.

  • Free (windows has a lot to gain by becoming free, it's free)

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[–] steel_sushi 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I haven't been keeping up with it much lately. Has someone found a way to completely remove cortana yet? Not just disable it.

*I forgot to add... How about the Xbox stuff, as well? Removable yet?

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[–] TauPhi 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

By remove, you mean strip the code from the OS, or just make it so she doesn't show up anywhere?

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[–] SkepticalSquirrel [S] 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

So is the multi desktop thing like Mac and linux?

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[–] SegFault 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

It's nice that Microsoft added this feature at a point where I typically have access to enough screen space that I never actually need multiple desktops.

Bleeding edge stuff. :P

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[–] TauPhi 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yeah, you start with one desktop and can put things in multi-desktop view by pressing win+tab. From there you can add or delete desktops (deleted desktops move their windows to another desktop. Then you can switch around quickly with ctrl+win+[arrow key]. You should be able to get how this looks and works on multi-screen setups with this screenshot.

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[–] Ralesblasband 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

The best part is that it's not Windows 8.

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[–] thedirtypuma 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

came here to say that

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[–] SkepticalSquirrel [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

great reply thank you

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[–] brownpanther 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Direct x 12 son!

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[–] AmazingFlightLizard 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Pretty much the only reason I'm really looking forward to10.

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[–] Broda 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Cortana should be good. Also they are going back to make it function a little more like 7. People really dont like 8, personally i hate it. Ive been waiting for the upgrade though, little over a week till it goes live.

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[–] TheSecretsBurn 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Because we don't talk about Windows 9. Never talk about Windows 9. Windows 9 never existed.

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[–] SkepticalSquirrel [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

makes sense thanks for the link

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[–] Summit651 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

I wish this was true for everything windows 7+. I got so frustrated I got a Mac. Still have to use that shit for work though and it's barely functional. I think we are on 9. It has a lay out that was meant for some sort of tablet-laptop hybrid that makes running it on a laptop miserable. The 2013(?) excel is also a huge pain in my ass.

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[–] TheKillerRabbit 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Windows 8 launch was a disaster. I think the same will happen for 10.

I recommend just sticking with 7 for now.

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[–] wolflink009 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

To be fair windows 8.1 is pretty darn usable.

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[–] Liberi_Fatales 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

8 is not 8.1. 8.1 is pretty stable and probably my favorite iteration of a MS OS since XP.

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[–] hellraiser 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Windows versions swing from bad to good every other launch. 3.11 good. 95 bad. 98 good. Me bad. Xp good. Vista bad. 7 good. 8 bad. 10 is likely going to be good. They learn from mistakes before making new ones all over again.

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[–] Sazed 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Not sure why you are being downvoated, i guess people forgot that the downvoat button isnt the disagree button.

But yeah, windows 8's initial launch was not perfect. It was improved with later updates though

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