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[–] ComradeWalrus 2 points 19 points (+21|-2) ago 

Freedom of speech. Even if I firmly disagree in your opinion.

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[–] Fournote 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Agreed. I don't know where you're from, but in my country (the US), we have court cases and laws that basically say speech is free as long as what you're saying it's inciting "imminent lawless action." In other words, as long as you're not doing things like inciting riots, panic, or acts of terrorism that will occur in the imminent future, you can pretty much say anything you want. I firmly believe in that notion. I don't care if what someone is saying is hurtful, racist, or downright disgusting (I've actually spoken up in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church a few times), you should be allowed to say what you want.

An example would be something that happened at my university. During the 2008 election campaign, a few students were holding a demonstration where they were throwing eggs at a picture of then presidential candidate Barack Obama. The egg was supposed to represent your "nest egg," a term for an initial amount of money used to start a new life (the protest was against his economic policies), so throwing it at a picture of him symbolized that his policies would supposedly be harmful to young people just starting out (I don't know if this is true or not, but for the sake of the argument, I don't care). The whole school was in an uproar. They saw the event as hateful, saying it could be construed as a racist protest. Hundreds of students were clamoring for the school to shut down the event. I decided to check it out. What I found were a bunch of butthurt kids wanting to censor free speech on a college campus (I know, right?). I decided to take part in the event, throwing the egg in the name of free speech, and even confronting a few students who told me they believed free speech should be censored if it was hurtful or even perceived as being racist regardless of the truth. After throwing my egg, I was booed by a small crowd and even received a flyer from one of them with info about how it's bad to hurt people's feelings. I felt really proud of myself that day.

The day after the protests, a bunch of students held a "free speech day" where students could recite poetry, sing, dance, and do anything else as long as it was safe, unhurtful speech. Irony, anyone?

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[–] ComradeWalrus 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

And yet they could have done it to a picture of Romney without problem, because he ISNT black. Truly stupid. Everyone get offended at anything nowadays.

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[–] RandomResponse 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I have to disagree on this one. I think having a certain moral objectivity that values service-to-others over service-to-self is something that should trump what we call freedom of speech.

I imagine there are many scenarios that you would want a person to shut there mouth. Take for example all the mis-information that is spread in the media and schools; speech that is harmful to the well being of others by shaping their world-view at an impressionable time in their lives using lies and deceit.

If people had a clear universally acknowledged moral standard they were adhering to, a standard based on the differences of service-to-self and service-to-others, we wouldn't bicker so endlessly about our precious rights and wrongs.

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[–] ComradeWalrus 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I mean if someone is lying about you and starting false rumors you still sue his ass. But I'm not gonna stop a neo-nazi parade because I disagree. And yeah as much as I hate feminazi they still have the right to say what they want .

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[–] luter25 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

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