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[–] gramman74 9 points 147 points (+156|-9) ago 

I think Comedy Central is becoming a lot like Reddit. It didn't start out as a far left Bastion, but that is where it's headed

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[–] BoiseNTheHood 2 points 107 points (+109|-2) ago  (edited ago)

I miss the old lineup of classic SNL episodes, Mystery Science Theater 3000, Craig Kilborn's version of the Daily Show, Dr. Katz, The Critic, Win Ben Stein's Money, The Kids in the Hall, and of course, copious amounts of stand-up specials. Everything the SJWs touch turns to shit.

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[–] middle_path [S] 1 points 42 points (+43|-1) ago 

I really enjoyed this too. It always felt like it leaned left, but no one cared because they didn't shove it down your throats.

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[–] TriumphantDefeat 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

Don't forget UCB!

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[–] BRockShooter 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Same here. I miss Comedy Central when it actually had comedy.

It's going the way of MTV (which was supposed to be a go to channel for the latest music videos, but now is a cesspool of mostly idiotic reality shows).

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[–] CaptainPieCart 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Don't forget the Man Show!

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[–] gramman74 3 points 27 points (+30|-3) ago 

The agenda for the station is driven by the corporate sponsors I'm sure their corporate sponsors are out of California.

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[–] White_Raven 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Can someone give me even one reason not to hate California?

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[–] TheOnlyOtherRedditor 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I don't think it's unique to this station, or unique to a specific corporation or state. It's just that the "social justice" demographic has reached a significant size, and even if they're not a majority, they're group that's more likely to spend more money on media and merchandising than others, especially in comparison to a cheap libertarian stereotypical redditor type. This makes them an ideal demographic for most for-profit media, and gives them over proportional interest by these groups. A similar thing is and has been happening with the old conservative demographic that is being catered to by media like Fox news, because they're also likely to spend money and media, or simply they don't do things like block ads.

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[–] Al_Rubyx 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I don't think south park is going to change. Trey and Matt seem "Just left enough" if that makes any sense. And that's the only reason I watch the channel.

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[–] KoKansei 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Trey and Matt are ideologically libertarian. Watch the Handycar episode if you think otherwise.

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[–] Fernando_x 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Far left is against the TTP. Reddit becoming far left is an oversimplification.

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[–] big_fat_dangus 9 points 109 points (+118|-9) ago 

What's ironic is that their target demographic is 20-30 year old white males. Cuck culture is a strange and disgusting thing.

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[–] Bkow 0 points 38 points (+38|-0) ago 

The only thing I watch on CC is south park.

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[–] Tim_Honks 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

I've started buying the DVDs because I don't want to pay for cable TV.

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[–] 654456 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

South park is on hulu, And most tv shows can be found on either hulu or their respective network website.

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[–] brownpanther 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Amy schumer? Nick kroll? Both top of the line comedians.

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[–] ShowMeYourGenitals 1 points 32 points (+33|-1) ago 

It's to the point where you might think there's actually been something in the water.

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[–] mr_skeltal 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Fluoride man, /r/conspiracy was right again :P

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[–] tekende 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

It's like they grew up with all their authority figures telling them how special and smart and capable they are, and now they just want everyone to tell them that they're horrible and the source of all the world's problems.

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[–] TalkingAnimal 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

When the heck did calling people cuckolds for things other than being cuckolds become a thing? Like... I think people who are different from me should also be treated with respect... therefore my wife has sex with other men?

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[–] YourDads 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

It boils down to saying someone likes watching people tell them they aren't worthy of something and gets off on being despised.

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[–] big_fat_dangus 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

It refers to the way they get off on being humiliated and feeling inferior. Works the same way for the sex act as the cultural phenomenon.

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[–] BirdLawyer 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

It's a way of saying faggot without saying faggot.

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[–] Jarmey 18 points 71 points (+89|-18) ago 

OK I really don't understand what sex jokes and fart jokes have to do with the "far left". I see my self as someone whose politics are really "far left" and I don't really identify the jokes on Comedy Central as propagating my ideals or world view to the masses. If anything the shows you mention reflect mainstream American culture and try to be edgy and funny. Sometime Amy Schumer is really funny IMO.

Could you unpack what you mean by "far left" a bit?

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[–] middle_path [S] 1 points 65 points (+66|-1) ago 

OK I really don't understand what sex jokes and fart jokes have to do with the "far left".

That isn't why I mentioned them. I mentioned all the sex jokes because of Amy getting offended that she was labeled as a "sex comic". I'm going to paraphrase, but her reaction was "A guy could come up here and whip his dick out and people would just laugh it up". It's just silly. She has this whole "I'm not going to apologize for being a woman" attitude without accepting responsibility for that fact that most of her stand-up is about sex, so being labeled as a sex comic is pretty appropriate. On top of my reasons listed in the OP, one of her stand up specials is called "mostly sex stuff" I mean, come on.

If anything the shows you mention reflect mainstream American culture and try to be edgy and funny.

I think my main issue is it just feels so forced. Like they are pandering to the lowest common denominator.

Could you unpack what you mean by "far left" a bit?

Unfortunately I can only give examples of what little I have seen. Last night I was attempting to watch key and peel. There was a skit about the men who are secretly women giving a lecture on how to deal with women on their period. It just seemed like they were apologizing for being men, which I really don't like. Even if I didn't mind it it seemed more informative than funny.

Also, during the commercial break there was a preview of the nightly show. In the preview a young black woman was on there for ripping down a confederate flag on what I presume to be private property. She was revered as a hero (and again I am paraphrasing) by the host with "If something needs to be done, just wait for a strong black woman to do it for you." She was arrested afterwards. This is not behavior that should be encouraged (it also seemed to have nothing to do with comedy at all). Taking down someone's property because you don't like it is plain childish. Whoever was flying said flag was well within their rights and she could have simply ignored it.

I see a lot of things like this on the channel, and I know if a young black woman were to take down a rainbow flag, she would not be celebrated as a hero.

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[–] pH_ 1 points 28 points (+29|-1) ago 

Key and Peele sometimes have a miss, and that may be one of them, but most of their stuff isn't terribly PC. Ex. They have a sketch called "office homophobe" about a flamboyant gay man insisting he's oppressed to a co-worker while calling him homophobic if he disagrees. Plot twist, then the flamboyant gay man says "oh, I'm not oppressed, I'm just an asshole." They also have the east-west bowl series of sketches making fun of ridiculous ghetto names.

As far as the nightly show, there you're seeing the general left feeling of "getting rid of the confederate flag is a positive thing", which they're just trying to support in an edgy way. The "strong black woman" comment seems like less of a strict, General statement and more of an indirect compliment to the young black woman.

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[–] Dantethebald 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Like they are pandering to the lowest common denominator.

And politics doesn't do this on both sides of the spectrum?

That beiong said I haven't watched anything on CC for about 3 years, short of the random youtube clip or whatever makes it to netflix so I can't speak to your other points from an objective standpoint.

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[–] Jarmey 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Unfortunately I can only give examples of what little I have seen. Last night I was attempting to watch key and peel. There was a skit about the men who are secretly women giving a lecture on how to deal with women on their period. It just seemed like they were apologizing for being men, which I really don't like. Even if I didn't mind it it seemed more informative than funny.

Also, during the commercial break there was a preview of the nightly show. In the preview a young black woman was on there for ripping down a confederate flag on what I presume to be private property. She was revered as a hero (and again I am paraphrasing) by the host with "If something needs to be done, just wait for a strong black woman to do it for you." She was arrested afterwards. This is not behavior that should be encouraged (it also seemed to have nothing to do with comedy at all). Taking down someone's property because you don't like it is plain childish. Whoever was flying said flag was well within their rights and she could have simply ignored it.

I see a lot of things like this on the channel, and I know if a young black woman were to take down a rainbow flag, she would not be celebrated as a hero.

Well I guess I would take issue with describing these things as "far left". To me these are just wishy washy liberal concerns. It sound like Rush Limbaugh describing Hillary Clinton or Obama as "far leftist". You don't need to be a radical to see the confederate flag as a shit symbol. The "men vs women" trope is as old and mainstream as anything.

As a self described radical leftist I am concerned about issues of colonialism and militarism. I'd like to see radical changes in education and economics. Please don't put me (and other leftist) into the same camp as mainstream democratic party liberalism.

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[–] sunsetparker 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

That Confederate Flag was on public property, in front of the South Carolina State House.

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[–] Lord-Stokeworth 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

If you don't notice how far left CC then you are deluded to what is mainstream. When is the last time you heard a joke that was anti-abortion, pro-republican, anti same-sex marriage, etc? You can't tune into a CC stand-up special without hearing pro same-sex marriage anymore.

And I am one of those south park libertarians, I agree with the liberal social agenda it is just forced in comdey. Note that anytime someone makes fun of Obama it is proceeded by anti-republican jokes. Seriously, no one opens with anti-Obama stuff. You don't notice because it reinforces your beliefs and I am betting you consume close to zero "conservative" media so you wouldn't really understand it.

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[–] scandihoonigan 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage... It's hard to make jokes out of the denial of basic human rights to groups of people because they they're not in tune with whatever crusade the Christian church is on about these day, and not make them sound like the bad guy.

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[–] InternetExoSuit 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

** When is the last time you heard a joke that was anti-abortion, pro-republican, anti same-sex marriage, etc?**

What would this joke(s) sound like? I'm not being facetious. I really want to hear/read it.

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[–] Original_Username 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Because that's traditionally been a "male" thing and male jokes. And Amy Schumer is just inserting herself into it, like with her movie trainwreck, it's just a straight romantic comedy of a guy who sleeps around till finding the one. It's formulaic but it makes sense. Now she's just put herself in the role of the male and expecting it to make sense. The "far left" is the driver of "equality" unfortunately they appear to be taking a tack of "If there's 3 shows with Male leads there has to be 3 shows with Female leads" even if those leads don't make sense. Amy Schumer's career is absurd as me running in the 100m sprint final. Purely transplanting individuals and continuing on as normal is an interesting choice.

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[–] aboyfalling 1 points 64 points (+65|-1) ago 

At least the South Park creators are libertarian, and their show reflects that a lot of the time with their messages.

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[–] middle_path [S] 0 points 50 points (+50|-0) ago 

SP is really the only reason I tune it. It makes fun of everyone unapologetically, which is what comedy is supposed to be IMO.

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[–] Truthi 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

Agreed. Equal opportunity offenders. And some conservatives liked it, too. (See South Park Republicans)

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[–] Original_Username 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I had a thought about South park the other day. Generally they mock the "right" by making fun of their stupid ideas, and they make fun of the "left" by mocking their stupid people.

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[–] AberdolfLincler 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Workaholics also doesn't match up with what OP is saying, far from it. I feel like he's got a point about some other stuff though, especially the Daily Show, and how Key and Peele is starting to lose their voice seemingly. I think last season was the best one yet though, so if it is happening, it's more recent. I need to see more of this season to decide really, only 2 episodes in.

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[–] tuneificationable 1 points 41 points (+42|-1) ago 

I agree with you, but they are just catering to their demographic. Most of their viewers are young people, who are, for the most part, liberal. Liberals like political satire right now. Conservatives aren't that into it. There is in interesting article about the lack of conservative political satirists, I'll link it below for anyone interested in reading it.

But I do agree with you that Comedy Central is predominantly liberal. I honestly haven't watched the Nightly Show past its first episode, but Colbert and Stewart were definitely left. But I wouldn't go so far as to say they were "far left." They just had liberal opinions, and Comedy Central is not a news source, so they have no obligation to be objective.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/why-theres-no-conservative-jon-stewart/385480/

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[–] mamwad 4 points 33 points (+37|-4) ago 

Political satire has always been a leftist genre. It's because for satire to work, you need to hint at the fact that humanity could do better. Without that, it quickly turns bitterly sarcastic and it just seems mean instead of funny.

Take a look back at its history. Jonathon Swift's "A Modest Proposal" is leftist. Mark Twain's most famous works tackle racism and classism. His posthumously published works are even more direct critiques of plutocracy and organized religion. Satirical folk songs like Pie in the Sky were popular during the American labor rights movement. German satire reached its peak when the Nazis started gaining political power (not that it made a difference). From the sixties, we got Joseph Heller, Kurt Vonnegut, and Dr. Strange love.

Libertarians can be good satirists, as Frank Zappa proved. But they do so by challenging the prevailing social traditions, which is something that conservatives simply can't do.

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[–] middle_path [S] 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

And there is nothing wrong with that, they all did it very well. Comedy central's programming just seems so icky. Like strolling through /tumblrinaction/.

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[–] dv1155 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I disagree that a conservative can't have funny satire. In its heyday the Rush Limbaugh TV show did just that making fun of the more far-left elements. It was basically a right wing daily show a decade before the daily show. The only reason conservatives aren't allowed on the popular media today is the fact that most news outlets are controlled by radical leftists.

https://youtu.be/f02dm73Zd5o

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[–] AberdolfLincler 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I don't like that SJW and leftist have become synonymous to a lot of people on Voat. That doesn't seem at all accurate to me, because you can have values that are similar to Bernie Sanders or something, but not be overly PC about everything. All I'm saying is, you guys need to be careful with oversimplifying things like that.

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[–] CommonSense 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

They are NOT just "catering to their demographic." They are implanting ideas. "if you don't find this funny, then you must not agree, then you must be a crazy conservative."

When you're young (and these days, i'm talking under 80), you are being manipulated whether you realize it or not. The best way to test this out, is to simply cut yourself off from this left-wing culture for a while. Stay off reddit, don't turn on the tv. Say..for a month. Don't let the media impact your life. Then, go back to it. You will see it as clearly as if you had the sun glasses from They Live. And, I suspect, before you even go back to it, you'll already be thinking a lot more clearly...and definitely a lot less left.

When it comes to jokes, in particular, watch some of the known left-wingers (particularly women like Silverman or Fey). See how often their "joke" is just a political statement. Something that involves the line "i mean, who would want free health care? rolls eyes."

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[–] Zorton 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I agree. I ran for awhile (10 yrs or so) without a TV in my home and it was amazing when we bought one and got hooked up to "the stream" how many messages are being pushed. Really you can see it just by killing the audio and watching commercials on mute. For extra fun turn on the captions and watch body language a bit. It's more than a little scary.

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[–] tothetop 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

What exactly do you mean implanting ideas? If you mean people are exposed to an idea and agree with it once they think about it, that isn't implanting. That would be educating as far as I'm concerned. Even if they don't agree with it, it's still educational to think about whatever idea you see and think about it.

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[–] HorseSizedDuck 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

But you're supposed to be laughing with Stewart and at Colbert.

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[–] middle_path [S] 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Colbert was playing a overly conservative character. It was all satire, he is obviously a moderate or liberal. Stewart seemed very liberal. I still really liked their programs because they still called out bullshit regardless of political leaning. Stewart called out Obama and Bush's bullshit countless times. It was refreshing. I think the change in the channel's narrative is what drove them both to leave at once. My theory, anyway.

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[–] middle_path [S] 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

It's really depressing to me. I used to love it so much, just like 90s MTV. It's just going downhill so fast.

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[–] Truthi 3 points 18 points (+21|-3) ago 

How does fart, sex, & other juvenile humor constitute far-left propaganda? And since when does the left posit that blacks/gays/women are superior (as opposed to equal to) to white males?

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[–] middle_path [S] 2 points 18 points (+20|-2) ago 

How does fart, sex, & other juvenile humor constitute far-left propaganda?

See my other comment on why I mentioned the sex jokes. It was regarding Amy Schumer being labeled a sex comic.

And since when does the left posit that blacks/gays/women are superior (as opposed to equal to) to white males?

Since third wave feminism.

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[–] Truthi 3 points 7 points (+10|-3) ago 

regarding Amy Schumer being labeled a sex comic

Amy's point is simply that it shouldn't matter that she's a woman. Men have always gotten away with this line of humor so why should she be called out for it for being a woman. But again, I fail to see how equal treatment is a left issue.

Since third wave feminism

Given that both of your objections are directed at women, isn't your issue more with feminism than the broader far-left propaganda?

Who knows, maybe Comedy Central is changing. But it's nowhere as atrocious a change as The Learning Channel or Discovery. So when the Science Channel became like the SciFi channel, I cancelled my cable subscription & couldn't be happier.

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[–] etherflan 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

Since saying that can scare people about "the far left"

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[–] Isaak 2 points 15 points (+17|-2) ago 

They are pandering to college-aged kids, so obviously it doesn't reflect how society really is.

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[–] we_are_legion 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Even worse. It shows how society will be.

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