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[–] RJKH 1 points 122 points (+123|-1) ago 

You're completely right, it seems like it is completely off the radar. It has been since the Confederate flag thing. I haven't heard much of anything, and silence is worrisome...

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[–] markh110 1 points 91 points (+92|-1) ago 

There's the conspiracy theory part of me that thinks the confederate flag and gay rights were timed to coincide with a period where we all needed to be placated while something big happens behind the scenes...

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[–] RJKH 0 points 61 points (+61|-0) ago 

I wouldn't go as far as the shootings and Confederate flag thing being a conspiracy theory, but here's my take:

Shootings happen, protesting and outrage over Confederate flag, media picks up on it, uproar lasts slightly longer as usual, 24-hour news cycle latches onto it and gives the story far more coverage than it needed for far too long at the order of their corporate owners who are involved in TPP negotiations.

Flags are literally the easiest symbol for an American to understand. Flags come with specific meanings for americans, so when the media starts arguing about "Flag good?! Flag bad, bad bad!", it is so damn easy to get a bunch of idiots swept up in it.

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[–] crabby_rabbit 0 points 33 points (+33|-0) ago  (edited ago)

don't forget the Pao/Voat/Reddit schism thingy. It managed to get all the meddling kids preoccupied with something else and let the adults at the big table take care of business.

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[–] Dreglas 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago 

People accredit to much competence to the leaders. Manufacturing a large news event is very difficult and not something that would be done unless there was extreme pressure on them. News stories come on a regular basis. It is better to use an existing event to hide behind than to make one.

For example terrorists hit France and attract world attention so Russia moves forward in the Ukraine without anyone noticing. It would be rediculous to think that the Russians did Charlie Hebdo but it is far from unrealistic to think that the Russians realised that the attack in Paris gave them 50 hours to do whatever with minimal attention.

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[–] mudcatca 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

And Reddit CEO change drama, since Reddit played such a big role in shutting g down stuff the corporate godlets have wanted in the past like SOPA. Manufactured distraction and dilution of organized discontented masses. But it's becoming more like trying to nail jello to the wall - we jump to a new place, reorganize, then refocus on what's really important.

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[–] 911599 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

It's almost like the TPP was used as a distraction to keep the conspiracy theorists busy. Makes me wonder what we missed.

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[–] deathcomesilent 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Nothing that the govt does, truly has only one goal. They more agendas you can serve with a single move, the more likely the change will actually stick.

I'm not saying your idea is impossible, but short of ww3, I can't imagine what could be more important than a true corporate takeover of the "free-world."

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[–] TheBlackerMath 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Its a subscriber only article :(

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[–] dart11 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Trying to jack the top comment here: I realize many of us hate "the other place" for removing news on the topic, but there is /r/TPPartnership, which is ideally a place to promote news and awareness about the topic without fear of censorship, as it's the focus of the subreddit, and hopefully give it the exposure it needs. We could ALWAYS use more hands trying to spread the word about the TPP.

EDIT: Also, decided it was pointless to not have a subverse on the topic, so please feel free to visit /v/tppartnership for news on and discusison of the TPP.

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[–] howlinhoosier 1 points 77 points (+78|-1) ago  (edited ago)

The American media focuses on what sells not what matters. The TPP will pass, millions of Americans will lose jobs while CEO salaries continue to climb into even more obsene levels, and most of America will be completely ignorant to the whole development.

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[–] omegletrollz 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

And Hollywood! And the press!

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[–] DRSE 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

It is also a taboo subject in Australia and very little information is being released. One of the last facebook posts I saw (and we all know how reliable they are) accused Abbott of allowing Chinese companies to staff Chinese owned business on Chinese wages in Australia in the TPP. I don't know how accurate that is but it wouldn't surprise me if he tried it.

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[–] Vespera 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Could you elaborate a little on how TPP is considered 'taboo' in Australia; is there a general consensus?

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[–] piitza 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

this shit seriously pisses me the fuck off. Now china can process our chickens and other foods. After kids being killed by lead in paint on their toys, to poisoning our pets with their shitty food. I will NOT be buying anything processed (not that i do now) from china. I will do all the painstakingly long ass research to ensure nothing I buy supports that bullshit. Local farms here I come. Cost is not the issue

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[–] RDVoater 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'm not as informed about the tpp as I possibly aught to be, do you mind giving me some info to better understand why it may lead to millions of Americans being out of jobs?

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[–] Flaaffy 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Let me find some links really quick! Only commenting so I can find this post quicker when I return!

Edit: this comic really helped me grasp some of the information. I hope it also helps you, too!

http://economixcomix.com/home/tpp/

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[–] hitamhitam 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Malaysia to bring in 1.5 million Bangladeshi workers in 3 years about the same day the U.S. passed the TPP

days later Obama Administration Makes Malaysia Slavery Problem For TPP Disappear

I personally don't think this so called "trade" can benefits for both.

Only 5 of 29 chapter is about trading

And the public won't allow to see until 4 years later

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[–] platypossamous 1 points 16 points (+17|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Sorry I'm not super knowledgable on the subject, and I don't know about America but I saw this article yesterday that made it seem like Canada is on board and going for it.

Edit: formatting

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[–] PlasmaPower 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

Use square brackets like this [Google](https://www.google.com) to make Google.

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[–] platypossamous 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Thank you!

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[–] lasercow 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

but how did you make it show up like that without actually making a hyperlink?

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[–] deathcomesilent 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

They'll be a world of hurt if they sign on before the US, and the US actually wakes up long enough to vote against the TPP.

I'm pretty sure this is the drawing of corporate, geopolitical battle-lines. No one wants to even chance being on the wrong side of the US unless they have a friend with an equally big stick.

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[–] Kadynce 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

We do need more TPP posts, especially with the new influx of users. Who's with me? :D

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[–] bleatingnonsense 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

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[–] hobodude34 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Well, I'm moving to Canada.

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[–] 30GoingOn13 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Might not help

Historically, Canada has been in favor of jumping into TPP as well. Just recently it's been presented as being problematic.

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[–] ShitConversationBot 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You mean northwest ameringland?

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[–] Lag-wagon 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago  (edited ago)

There was an article where Google is no longer showing torrenting sites. No sauce, sorry.

Edit: i read it is a TPB not TPP. My mistake.

What i know of the TPP:

The TPP is to cut China and Russia out of trade agreements and to hurt them economically.

The TPP is going to piss off Russia and China.

The TPP is to wave certain fees so that this agreement is worth something to other countries.

Japan joined at the last minute.

I really dumbed this down.

i have not heard anything else about it in recent news.

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[–] PatFenis 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

TPP, not TPB. The Trans Pacific Partnership. It's a secret treaty being discussed by the US and other powerful nations to strengthen ip laws internationally.

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[–] Lag-wagon 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

i know the difference, i just read too quickly. My mistake. The TPP is a document to start a new cold war. It is pretty amazing.

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[–] tame 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That was Chrome blocking torrent sites with a 'malicious website' banner iirc.

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[–] 914584 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The TPP is to cut China and Russia out of trade agreements and to hurt them economically.

My tinfoil hat tells me we want to bring down China so we won't have to pay back our horrific debt and can avoid becoming the new Greece, but I don't know enough about the international political sphere to back that up.

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[–] Lag-wagon 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If i remember correctly. Debt, when talking about world powers, is a good thing. It gives you a good credit rating. Also, China and the USA both have debts with each other. $1.2237 trillion for China 4.6 trillion for USA. China is on the verge of a Market crash. There are so many angles one could take here.

Russia just beefed up its military train system under the curtain of the Olympics. They have 54,000 troops on Ukrainians boarders. China is doing something, im not exactly sure, and US navy boats are out in the pacific right now to stop them. The market crash because of all the general public are purchasing stocks in China instead of the wealthy few or business and they screwed up and everyone is selling. All the lower class / middle class now lost all their money in the market and cannot repay the banks / debtors. i feel like i could write a book.

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[–] V3ryl3git 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'm not too worried just yet, the day track that US Congress passed gives power to not just Obama but also the next president. With any luck Sanders will be able to take it down

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