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[–] ARsandOutdoors 0 points 78 points (+78|-0) ago 

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[–] Kannibal 1 points 26 points (+27|-1) ago  (edited ago)

thing is, things like the "African Notebook" Quote is hard to debunk because the original edition is hard to find.

However a number of people have gone to their actual college library, looked up the first edition, and found the quote is simply not there.

You can search for snippets from the 1936 edition here and find a number of passages with the word "race" in it but nothing with the phrase "sub--race". For that matter, neither does the word "fraternize" exist in the book

the quoted passage was never censored out, it was never there. it is a made up quote.

This puts the whole collection of material into the doubt,

Sort of like the folks who decided to publish the Kenyan birth certificate of Barack Obama. Kenyan was not a country when Obama was born, and so his birth certificate would have be British Colonial. The Kenyan certificate was faked.

So this means that all of the data has to be inspected and verified.

Or we can do like Judge Judy does, and conclude that if you present false evidence in making your case, that the whole case is contaminated.

When making a case like this, you have to use the best evidence.

It is not enough to have a huge pile if it is a huge pile of shit, even if it is very pretty shit.

Thing is, if you want to prove that the cause of problems in inherent in race, you have to prove it cannot possibly be anything else.

This sucks I know.

for a broader view of this, see the essay "cargo cult science"

For example, there have been many experiments running rats through all kinds of mazes, and so on—with little clear result. But in 1937 a man named Young did a very interesting one. He had a long corridor with doors all along one side where the rats came in, and doors along the other side where the food was. He wanted to see if he could train the rats to go in at the third door down from wherever he started them off. No. The rats went immediately to the door where the food had been the time before.

The question was, how did the rats know, because the corridor was so beautifully built and so uniform, that this was the same door as before? Obviously there was something about the door that was different from the other doors. So he painted the doors very carefully, arranging the textures on the faces of the doors exactly the same. Still the rats could tell. Then he thought maybe the rats were smelling the food, so he used chemicals to change the smell after each run. Still the rats could tell. Then he realized the rats might be able to tell by seeing the lights and the arrangement in the laboratory like any commonsense person. So he covered the corridor, and, still the rats could tell.

He finally found that they could tell by the way the floor sounded when they ran over it. And he could only fix that by putting his corridor in sand. So he covered one after another of all possible clues and finally was able to fool the rats so that they had to learn to go in the third door. If he relaxed any of his conditions, the rats could tell.

Now, from a scientific standpoint, that is an A‑Number‑l experiment. That is the experiment that makes rat‑running experiments sensible, because it uncovers the clues that the rat is really using—not what you think it’s using. And that is the experiment that tells exactly what conditions you have to use in order to be careful and control everything in an experiment with rat‑running.

I looked into the subsequent history of this research. The subsequent experiment, and the one after that, never referred to Mr. Young. They never used any of his criteria of putting the corridor on sand, or being very careful. They just went right on running rats in the same old way, and paid no attention to the great discoveries of Mr. Young, and his papers are not referred to, because he didn’t discover anything about the rats. In fact, he discovered all the things you have to do to discover something about rats. But not paying attention to experiments like that is a characteristic of Cargo Cult Science.

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[–] TheAmerican 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago 

He already knows what he wants the data to tell him, so he will seek out information that supports that.

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[–] ARsandOutdoors 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Thank you for such a thorough reply

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[–] gullwingx [S] 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Besides 3 of those images, everything includes the source of the information.

But you do make very good points. Everyone should take that into account when forming an argument. You say one false thing, the rest of what you say becomes moot.

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[–] Itsdone63 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

I think you've made a very valid point there friend.

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[–] N3DM 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Damn, son!

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[–] gullwingx [S] 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

That's it!

Thanks a lot my man.

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[–] ARsandOutdoors 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Lol I have a Rather large redpill folder

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[–] BearDolphin1488 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'm going to use these graphs in a paper. Thanks

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[–] ARsandOutdoors 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I got a grip on IQ and race if u want. I’ll have to post later tonight tho

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[–] Holonomic 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That's a helluva link! It's probably not what OP wanted, but it's damn close and an excellent source.

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[–] Sosacms 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I used to have a fun collection of maps that showed the density of various statistics. It was fun to show people the direct overlap of violent crimes and black population. Not poverty, not education, not even heavy drug usage... Just black population.

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[–] ninjajunkie 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

The new data shows that 21 percent of black men raised at the very bottom were incarcerated, according to a snapshot of a single day during the 2010 census. Black men raised in the top 1 percent — by millionaires — were as likely to be incarcerated as white men raised in households earning about $36,000.

From NYT article.

Data is pulled from 2010 census and Equality of Opportunity Project

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[–] Food_Stamp 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Is it possible to look up crime stats by city? Comparing the wealthy sports niggers hoods in california to the poor miners in virginia should be interesting.

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[–] piratse 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Well most of those rich neighborhoods will still be mostly white and asians. So the crime rates will be way lower. Also, crims travel to nice areas to rob. Better to stick with race as the identifier.

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[–] Food_Stamp 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Well they do exist, and someone pisted the data here before, i remember seeing it. Some wealthy nigger enclave in cali somewhere, sportsballers and actors and such, that has a higher crime rate than the poorest white town in america, some Appalachian town.

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[–] magol 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

high income africans are 80-90% rappers or athletes which are know to be the "criminals" in the" celebrity world. rappers even brag about committing illegal stuff.

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[–] samy90a44 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

All you need do is look at just about any Black Politician over the past 50 Years, with very few exceptions, for prime textbook examples of high-income Blacks engaging in egregious examples of corruption and white collar crime. (You can take the jungle-bunny out of the jungle and put it in a suit and tie, but under those nice clothes it's still a nig-er)

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[–] Biggerpotato 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Just type nigger, theres no thought police here.

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[–] samy90a44 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I know. Just a technique of mine I've used in mixed company for years to maintain a cover.

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[–] 0100100-100110 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This guy has been collecting graphs and waiting for the day he could help some one. Just think about that 😂😂😂

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