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[–]pcdude0 points
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This one is not a product of big government or socialism. This has its roots in unions, and before that guilds that go back 2500 years. Ultimately people want assurances that they are getting high quality services, and guilds are supposed to be able to offer that. If there was a big reset on everything, guilds would form naturally. The problem is less with the concept of licensing and code restriction and more with government getting involved in it. Introduce government and you introduce cronyism and corruption.
It the government stepped out, you would have private guilds enforcing most of the same things in order to ensure quality work that keeps them looking good and keeps the wages at the highest that a free market will tolerate.
The ESRB is a great example. Back when Doom and Mortal Kombat were making headlines, a bunch of people in the industry got together to form an independent ratings system to avoid government oversight. Outside of small release independent titles, it's essentially impossible to to actually sell a game without an ESRB rating which requires you pay a fee to receive one.
And thank God they did it. Could you imagine, given the modern social climate, the nightmare that games development would be if the government were involved in regulations of content? I shudder to wonder.
Without the state the unions would just hire thugs to kick in your teeth.
Every group of people eventually becomes a gang.
Licensing 'unions' are to control the supply of some service or product, and so keep prices high--they are a natural response to governments importing spics and streetshitters to artificially manipulate prices lower.
They did before the government got involved. Before the government the thugs were either privately hired or they locked you out of markets by denying you acceptance to guild endorsement. People will naturally go for guild endorsed devices because it eliminates a lot of the risk that what you get is inferior.
Unions are fine as long as they don't initiate force (or use government to do it indirectly). They are free to exercise control over their own property and bodies, and if they want to organize as groups who consistently exercise control over themselves, more power to them.
That’s a corrupt union. Government corrupts these things when they are allowed to mix. It can get bad, but not nearly as quickly or permanently when government lacks the power to grant unions favors.
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[–] pcdude 0 points 18 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago
This one is not a product of big government or socialism. This has its roots in unions, and before that guilds that go back 2500 years. Ultimately people want assurances that they are getting high quality services, and guilds are supposed to be able to offer that. If there was a big reset on everything, guilds would form naturally. The problem is less with the concept of licensing and code restriction and more with government getting involved in it. Introduce government and you introduce cronyism and corruption.
It the government stepped out, you would have private guilds enforcing most of the same things in order to ensure quality work that keeps them looking good and keeps the wages at the highest that a free market will tolerate.
[–] truthwoke33 0 points 9 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago
The ESRB is a great example. Back when Doom and Mortal Kombat were making headlines, a bunch of people in the industry got together to form an independent ratings system to avoid government oversight. Outside of small release independent titles, it's essentially impossible to to actually sell a game without an ESRB rating which requires you pay a fee to receive one.
And thank God they did it. Could you imagine, given the modern social climate, the nightmare that games development would be if the government were involved in regulations of content? I shudder to wonder.
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[–] captainstrange 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Without the state the unions would just hire thugs to kick in your teeth.
Every group of people eventually becomes a gang.
Licensing 'unions' are to control the supply of some service or product, and so keep prices high--they are a natural response to governments importing spics and streetshitters to artificially manipulate prices lower.
[–] 9-11 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
OP is talking about the licensing part, not unions.
Which one do you think an imposter should be able to impersonate?
[–] pcdude ago
They did before the government got involved. Before the government the thugs were either privately hired or they locked you out of markets by denying you acceptance to guild endorsement. People will naturally go for guild endorsed devices because it eliminates a lot of the risk that what you get is inferior.
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[–] prairie 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Unions are fine as long as they don't initiate force (or use government to do it indirectly). They are free to exercise control over their own property and bodies, and if they want to organize as groups who consistently exercise control over themselves, more power to them.
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[–] pcdude ago
That’s a corrupt union. Government corrupts these things when they are allowed to mix. It can get bad, but not nearly as quickly or permanently when government lacks the power to grant unions favors.