[–] Crensch 3 points 78 points (+81|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Power goes out.

Hackers ruin 1s and 0s money.

Tax evasion for unconstitutional taxes.

Hidden transaction charges.

Not telling anyone where you are or where youve been.

Avoiding alimony/child support.

Avoiding paying niggers to breed and sandniggers to invade.

No bank errors.

Barter economy with only whites and cash instead of traceable 1s and 0s *to purchase outside goods.

EDIT: Thanks @Ocelot for pointing out I didn't finish my thought.

[–] NotHereForPizza 0 points 30 points (+30|-0) ago 

So basically half of those can be summarized as "privacy."

[–] Hydrocephalus 6 points 2 points (+8|-6) ago 

And also illegal, which was what op was trying to avoid in asking for legal reasons.

[–] CatsControlTheEU 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Well literally just paying people for services or stuff. Neighbor's kid mows my lawn I'm not sending him bitcoin and I doubt he has a credit card swiper.

Buying or selling something from a garage sale?

Giving someone some cash for helping you out like giving you a ride after your car breaks down?

Giving your grandson a cash gift?

I live in Chicago and the only time anyone uses something other than cash here is at stores or taxis. And half the time they use cash there anyway.

Whoever thinks cash has no use must be from San Franshitco or not really interact with people. I don't like credit cards and I don't like swiping them because of theft possibilities. I'm definitely not the only one as well. If I give someone $20 cash, that's it, it's done. No credit card bill, no card theft, nada.

Simple and easy.

[–] MegaDouche 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Avoiding paying niggers to breed and sandniggers to invade.

Most important.

[–] BeefBourgignon 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Is it legal for citizens to invent their own cash and use it instead of the American dollar?

[–] GIIOST 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

wtf u think bitcoin is

[–] Crensch 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Constitutionally legal, yes.

[–] RoBatten 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

As long as you pay tax on any income from that cash . . .

[–] xenoPsychologist 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

yes, but usually the issue is that no one else trusts your money, so they wont trade for it. or they expect others wont trade for it.

[–] Ocelot 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Wouldn't a barter economy not have currency and instead rely on exchange of goods of equal, agreed-upon value?

[–] Cleanhobo 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Ok, I will barter the grass I have in my field for whatever you do at your job... sound like a deal? I hope you train horses.

[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yes. Barter is defined as cashless and dealing in the trade of goods directly between parties. There is an argument that even cash is just a form of barter though. If there any real difference to me in exchanging 1 hour of my time for a pound of oranges that I then trade for a gallon of gas, and me trading 1 hour of my time for a $5 bill that I then trade for the gallon of gas?

[–] Crensch 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

My mistake; finished the sentence early when I got distracted.

Fixed. Thank you.

[–] Saturday405 0 points 42 points (+42|-0) ago 

Some stores charge extra to customers who pay with debit and credit cards so using cash is sticking it to the man. And swap meets. And yard sales. And your brother who asks for some beer money. And when your credit card gets lost or when the credit processing machines go down in your area and damn it you're out of gas.

[–] BaconandEggz 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

And when your credit card gets lost or when the credit processing machines go down in your area and damn it you're out of gas.

I had this happen to me once, I keep a $20 bill in the glovebox now just for this reason. Never know when you might lose your wallet or the machines just dont work. That $20 should be enough to get you home.

[–] StanTheTRex 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I keep a couple twenties folded between my phone and phone case.

[–] Cat-hax 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's actually a really good idea, I'm going to do the same but hide the cash.

[–] Computergeek01 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Some stores charge extra to customers who pay with debit and credit cards so using cash is sticking it to the man.

They are contractually not allowed to do that by the way. That's how fucked up our economy has already become just by having credit cards, despite the added effort on the vendors part for processing cards, the card companies could void their transactions if they are caught seeking compensation for the added effort.

[–] peacegnome 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Almost all the ones vendors use on a cell phone charge $0.50 or something. I have seen some places that give a discount for cash, like some gas stations.

[–] chuckletrousers 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Technically, they're offering a discount for cash payments.

[–] BiscuitFever 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

They’re not charging extra for cards, they’re discounting cash. Or something like that. Loopholes.

[–] auto_turret 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It's obviously not enforced.. pretty much every gas station or store does this

[–] prairie 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Some stores charge extra to customers who pay with debit and credit cards

And the rest just charge everyone the processing fees. It's part of the prices.

[–] the_sharpest_knife [S] 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Stores that charge extra for paying with debit and credit sounds good got any examples? Yard sales don't pay taxes so qualifies as illegal. I would never loan someone money, I would just buy them the beer. The last scenario has never happened.

[–] Saturday405 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

All the convenience stores in Nevada are doing it now.

[–] ErrantCognition 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

In my experience any independent mini mart charges a 25-50 cents for card transactions under a certain amount, e.g., $5.

Also, I don't think you have to report personal transactions (like yard sales) until its over a certain amount.

[–] lemon11 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago 

This is the same as the argument "if you don't have anything to hide, you don't have anything to fear."

What I fear today I don't necessarily need to hide.

What I don't hide today I won't necessarily not fear about tomorrow.

[–] vastrightwing 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

I have nothing to hide and plenty to fear. Any comments I make today are ok today and not ok tomorrow. Everything I say and do can be be used against me later. My life is private, I don't want to have to be careful with my life to ensure that what I say and do today may be used by the state tomorrow.

It's better for me to keep a low profile now so there is no trail later. I prefer cash because I don't want the state looking through my purchase history, I don't want to make the banks a profit because it's easier to pay with credit. When I use my credit card, it also costs me interest if I can't pay my balance.

Cash equals sovereignty, credit equals slavery.

[–] voats4goats 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Cash equals sovereignty, credit equals slavery.

This right here. They charge you for the privilege of credit/debit in the form of higher price of goods AND finance charges if you don't pay in full at the end of the month.

It truly is a devious system only a Jew could love

[–] RoBatten 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah, never buy alcohol or tobacco with cards.

[–] chuckletrousers 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

"if you don't have anything to hide, you don't have anything to fear."

Ask them to show you their internet bookmarks.

[–] slwsnowman40 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Not the bookmarks...their browser(s) history.

[–] the_sharpest_knife [S] 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Then you bring about the argument: "if you need to hide something it's likely illegal".

[–] vastrightwing 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I keep plenty of things to myself because I don't have a need to share my thoughts and activities with the world. I also don't share everything with my own family. I'm frankly perplexed why so many people share so much about their private lives with complete strangers.

[–] Greyskull 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

its cost business money to run credit cards and in return they raise prices to compensate. using cash will save you more..... always ask if there cash discount on making large purchase..... they will usually drop 2%

[–] ReadPastHeadlines 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Landscaping companies have dropped a couple hundred off of an $1800 bill. Always ask for cash discount if you have the money on hand for sure!

[–] Greyskull 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

i got 200 off my exmark

[–] vastrightwing 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yes, because they can save about 20-30% if you pay using cash.

[–] the_sharpest_knife [S] 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

He's made a considerable amount of money reporting businesses that only accept cash. The IRS pays out 20% to him for each successful case he has reported. To date, ever business that has requested cash only has been found guilty of tax evasion.

[–] cmor88 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

Transactions between individuals?

Conducting business privately?

[–] midnightblue1335 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That's just fancy talk for "drug deals".

Playing Devil's advocate here- how would you reply to that?

[–] DukeofAnarchy 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

I would reply, "That's the point!"

Cash allows people to ignore the state. This makes it harder for the government to impose its will against the will of the people. The right to bear arms and defend yourself against crime (rather than being totally dependent on the police) does the same thing. So does the ability to communicate privately. Everything that characterizes a free society empowers the people to defy the government. That's the point!

Governments in general will be as tyrannical as they can get away with. Government monitoring and control of all transactions in the economy (which is the goal of the cashless society) means absolute, grinding despotism.

[–] Hydrocephalus 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

It's also fancy talk for yard sales. Payment companies take a percentage of every sale, that's why there are still a fair amount of small businesses that are cash only.

[–] cmor88 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Hurr durr I don't value privacy and neither should you.

Thats like asking a gun owner why he needs a particular firearm.

[–] the_sharpest_knife [S] 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

1st: can be done electronically easily these days.

2nd: why would you need it to be private?

[–] cmor88 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

How can it be done electronically? What extra equipment/software do I have to buy? What if If the internet isn't available? What happens when the power goes out, my batteries die, or the equipment or software fails?

What if I want tangible wealth that is stored in a physical location rather than it being numbers on some fucking cloud which is vulnerable to hackers?

Why does it need to be private? Because I have a right to my privacy. Its none of your damn business quite frankly.

[–] FuckshitMcDickTits 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Why do people think you have to have a justifiable NEED for everything these days.

Only argument needed is fuck you, I do it because I want to.

But to actually answer your question, Privacy.

[–] diodine 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

It's a weird way of thinking. Everybody needs justification for everything.

I burnt $300 in gas on a road trip just for kicks. My money is in order, I can afford it. I maintain my car. Who's business is it how much gas I use? Do I need to justify that? I did nothing productive in that other than have fun for once. Do you need to justify having a good time?

[–] slwsnowman40 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Do you need to justify having a good time?

Most here would say no.

[–] the_sharpest_knife [S] 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

That is a poor argument imho. The question is why the need for privacy.

[–] ExceptionEncountered 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

What's your name and address?

[–] NassTee 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I don't want my credit card company to know about my addiction to edible underwear.

[–] Flirp 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Ya know it's just oversized fruit rollups right?

[–] NassTee 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yeah, but the regular fruit rollups don't stay on right.

[–] N3DM 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Come on, you could surely quit at any time!

[–] SurfinMindWaves 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It's a DISEASE. He can't stop himself!

[–] the_sharpest_knife [S] 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

So privacy for an embarrassing fetish? That may actually work.

[–] VoatIsForTimmy 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago  (edited ago)

We use cash to control how much we spend at real world stores. It keeps you within your budget. That's still not illegal. I see no reason for (((banks))) to be paid a small fee to process a transaction that I can pay for directly.

[–] the_sharpest_knife [S] 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

I've never had a bank charge a fee for debit transactions from the consumer end.

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