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[–] r3vamp3d 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I've been shopping for a new car, for almost a year, and it fucking sucks. I can get a 10 year old model with 100k miles for about 65-75% of a CPO, and a CPO for about 80-90% of a new model.

I don't want all the electronics because one fails tends to take out everything, plus I don't want tracking so I don't want gps built in, not like built in navigation is better than any cell phone or gps unit.