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[–] RecluS 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Can anyone find a better price for the Ford Translation than Amazon? It is $35


[–] NeoGoat 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Goats, we've been here before Previously: @Narow_Foe_Minsk wrote

Edit edit: Spoonfeeding time, since nobody else linked them yet. Stalag and Ford edition, as well as this document, which highlights the discrepancies and issues with the various translations.

His full comment is: https://www.voat.co/v/whatever/2463327/12277034

There is also a pure text version, which is translated by someone with an unfavorable opinion of Hitler at txt link, thanks to @ZardoZ2017

For completeness, we also have @ivar 's reply from elsewhere in these comment "I advice against the Ford translation. See my other reply" (permalink to his commentl)

& @ivar 's other comment on this page

Full discussion of English copies started by @antiliberalsociety https://www.voat.co/v/whatever/2463327

@TrueFreedom @BLOODandHONOUR @Crensch @HayastanArk @clamhurt_legbeard

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[–] TrueFreedom1476 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I have the Stalag Edition, how does it compare to the Ford translation?


[–] Derjuden 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Stalag is regarded as one of the best as well

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[–] iwar ago  (edited ago)

I advice against the Ford translation. See my other reply.


[–] obsessedcrf 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Hitler wollte alle die Juden töten


[–] nul 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago 

Highly recommend that you don't read it until you understand the time period and why it was written. A lot of things are temporal and relevant to the time, and without a proper understanding of what Germany was going through then, you won't understand a lot of it.

When I look up Hitler quotes now (you know, the ones that are made to make him look bad) they make me laugh because of how out of context they are. For example, "The victor will never be asked if he told the truth" is often used to make it look like he didn't believe in truth, only victory. In reality this comes from a long passage about Britain's propaganda during the first world war. He was in fact criticizing the belief, not embracing it.

Hitler was a man of truth and he wanted, more than anything, peace and prosperity among all Europeans and peoples of the world.


[–] d33t 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This, exactly. The version I downloaded from archive.org includes (((annotations))) that provide historical context (as well as unsolicited negative commentary) that prompted me to further investigate the state of affairs of the time. This led me to read about the (((October Revolution))) of 1913. How deep the rabbit hole goes!

After learning about the horrifying atrocities the (((Bolsheviks))) committed against the Russian proles, Hilter's motivations resolved before my eyes with lucid clarity: he was only trying to protect his people from a terrible fate under Jewish communism, while also warning the rest of the world that the international Jews were coming for them too.

I highly recommend reading about the October Revolution and the Secret Holocaust. The Spanish Inquisition can't hold a candle to the gruesome things the Jews did in early 20th century Russia.

The Jewish role in the Bolshevik Revolution: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html

The whole is worth reading, but Ctrl+F "An Orgy of Murder" and start reading from there if you want to skip to the nightmare fuel: http://www.rense.com/general86/realholo.htm

Edit: I haven't gotten the chance to sit down and watch this (it's ~6 hours long), but I've heard glowing remarks about this documentary on Hilter: https://thegreateststorynevertold.tv

Edit 2: Another documentary I've heard good things about is Europa: The Last Battle. Somehow it still hasn't been deleted from Youtube.


[–] 12501373? 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Just like this quote.


"A lie told once remains a lie but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth"

It is used to make national socialist seem "evil manipulator masterminds that will lie thousands of times and brainwash their people"...I always thought it was weird that they supposedly manipulator would shoot himself in the foot saying that in public.

I'm almost sure it was a quote said toward their enemies instead, the jews, the media, england, france,...I don't know, do you know ?


[–] no-hurry-no-pause 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

until you understand the time period and why it was written.

So the obvious next question you should have answered in advance is what books do I need to read to properly understand the time period, preferably from a Hitler perspective.


[–] nul 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I'll try and give you some info, as a beginner. This is by no means comprehensive, but it certainly helps

Benjamin Freedman's speech

Hitler's War - What the Historians Forget to Mention


Europa: The Last Battle

The Myth of the 20th Century

There's way more, I have over 100 GB of pdfs/books on my hard drive. I'm still working to sort it all out. If you're looking for way more, try /pdfs/

Also - in regards to world history, I cannot shill enough Arthur Kemp's March of the Titans

If your first response to this is something among the lines of "This is too much, I can't be bothered to watch/read/listen to all this..." then realize that you are an untermensch and unfit for proper thinking. I don't expect you to do it all today, or even this month, but put it on your to do list and save it for a rainy day.


[–] Naught405 ago 

Everything on and from the period that you can. The more you read the more you understand.


[–] Nofweer ago 

He was in fact criticizing the belief, not embracing it.

Yes. It is so very common to see Hitler's quotes misinterpreted as if he had instructed how to act in certain way, when in fact he was criticizing his opponents.

For example, "the lie repeated many times will be believed true" was not his teaching on how to do propaganda, quite the opposite, he was describing how the Communist propaganda works. Well, and it still does it that way, doesn't it?


[–] Anson 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

It's really enlightening. Adolf Hitler was a very intelligent person, which can plainly be seen by reading that book.

It's a dense read with quite the background on relevant parts of his life experiences that tie into his political views.

What really nice about the book is it's a great source to point anyone towards who attempts to equate Bernie's socialism with Nazism. They're not the same and opposite in many ways which simply cannot be contested due to numerous implicit, as well as explicit, incompatible views. Most notably he talks about giving away free things being useless, pointless and, if anything, damaging. And he has a solution I think everyone can agree on (expect for those already getting gibs of course; they'll go silent and wait for a cheap shot to take).

He also explains a lot about the Jew, and his life's recollection of them. Most notably, he had no knowledge of them or even heard the word jew for about half of his life, at the time of writing. There were by and large no counter examples to the typical Jew's behavior and it's extremely uncanny how he describes debating them if one juxtaposes it with today's openly liberal political atmosphere. To go further, the "forgetting" of having been presented evidence that undoes one's view with a period of time he specifies. It seems like much of what he describes is present day America.

I could go on but this is getting kind of long. Do you have any questions or other specifics you'd like to know?


[–] FormerBaltimoreRes 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I witness the "fist full of jelly" that he writes about and it's uncanny how accurate an analogy it is.

I would never dox myself by posting these, but I have friendly emails between a colleague who happens to be from a certain tribe. This colleague has been nothing but a professional in our interactions, he is the one people would point to and say "see look they aren't so bad". And in the professional world I would have no evidence to the contrary. However, he likes to send the MSNBC style talking points to our group email list quite regularly. This entire group has defended dissertations at one point in their lives and are capable of rhetoric, so you would think it's high level discourse, but trust me, it is exactly as described in mein kampf.

I never reply back because as you all know, it's hard to hide power levels, but this individual will intentionally forget solid points the more conservatives members make, he will intentionally misuse statistics in a way that he would routinely lambast in a professional setting. If you were to read the group emails it might throw you off if you did not know better, because everyone is so respectful due to professional courtesy. But after a few weeks you'd be thinking to yourself "typical tricks".


[–] Whitemail 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

I listened to it. The vocabulary and eloquence are amazing, assuming the same levels of such existed in the German. Hitler was really a practical, reasonable man who believed in reality rather than Marxist bullshit. From what I heard now, a lot of his views back then were not uncommon or out of place. People openly received the fact that Europeans were clearly more intelligent and more productive than niggers.

There are times when he predicted the future. He mentions Jews telling really big lies and how ordinary people can't even fathom that somebody would lie to such an extent as that, because most people tell small lies (predicted "muh 6 garillion, goy"). Of course the Jews have people thinking Hitler mentioned this, because he wanted to lie and lie big. He was actually accurately describing Jewish behavior. I think he mentioned Israel becoming a criminal safe haven there (if not it was somewhere else), and he was right about that too.

It is also true what he said that "only the Jew knew" that the media could be used to make conditions of hell seem like heaven, and conversely, conditions of heaven seem like hell.

Chapter 1 and 2 are kind of boring. They're about his early life, but then the national socialist philosophy kicks in and it gets good.

I have also listened to the introduction of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, and it sounds like an exact description of modern America. Hitler mentioned the book in Mein Kampf, so he knew about it. He said the Jews fiercely deny there's any truth to it, but he knew what was described was certainly authentic.


[–] iwar 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It's a must read, which I think others will argue well enough for.

What I will advice however is to first put some effort into finding the most honest translation. All are available on the Internet for free, so it's no obstacles for doing this properly. This is important, because the twist in wording to make the meaning different than the original work is very extensive in some translations.

For example a Kirkland edition which is an alteration of the Murphy's edition replaces "nation" with "country" and "nationalist" with "countryist". The Ford translation replaces "volkischen begriffes" ("folk conception" in Murphy's) with "racial idea".

This should be enough said to show this is extremely important. It's probably not many books where the choice of translation is more important than for Mein Kampf.

Much is written about which translations are good and bad, but the first to understand is that these exact reviews are also often written with a total bias while trying to appear neutral. I understood this by comparing different translations, and found that most reviews try to pull you into choosing inaccurate translations. One example being an article "Mein Kampf - Translation Controversy", which I found not at all to reflect the truth.

I will not say my comparison went very deep, and it's many years ago, but I checked out five different translations, and the one to be most true to the German version was the 1939 translation by J.Murphy. Please make your own evaluation, but this is what I concluded.

For the Murphy's version, I've read this one There is also one on archive.org, which seems to have a bit better format. Unfortunately I haven't found a true scan. It also has first section/half (only) of the book in a quite well-voiced audio version.

I think it's not paranoid to even be vary of potentially removed pages and sections from some online versions, though I can't recall if I actually discovered that.

A story of the Murphy's translation here : http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30697262


[–] Inquisitioner 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I've found Ford translation to be solid. I also like that it will have the footnotes to explain what Hitler is referencing from the time (these are read aloud in the audiobook version, which is fantastic).


[–] CheeseboogersGhost 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago 

It is testament to how dirty jews are and how their international ring is a threat to mankind.


[–] zzyzzx 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I am still waiting for the movie version.


[–] Nofweer 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Very boring and silly at the beginning. Surprisingly modern sounding at times, and makes you understand how little some things have changed. A lot of references to events contemporary to the author but totally unknown to modern reader, so not very relevant but still interesting as testimony of an eyewitness. Some very reasonable and sound ideas. Absence of any maniacal, murderous and evil things one would expect from such a notorious book. It is very ordinary by any measure. He had some interesting predictions about the fate of India - he predicted that British will keep it by all means possible and will never let it go. His obsession with Jews gets irritating at times, as it obviously was clouding his reasoning, but he probably was less antisemitic than quite few goats around here, and at least he had some good reasons for that. It's quite interesting to read about his practical experience with getting involved with the party and all the routine activities, especially the brawls with Bolshies. Overall - a good read. It just takes to pull oneself together to struggle through the very boring beginning and keep reading, at least browsing, through the boring and irrelevant chapters. The book is demonized quite unreasonably. If you keep in mind when it was written, you must admit that it is even rather ordinary book. Keep in mind though that unless you are reading it in the German original, meaning of the writing may be distorted, even quite considerably so, making some things to sound unnecessarily menacing, not like in the German original.

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