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[–] newoldwave 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Social Security pension isn't welfare since you pay into it your entire working life. .

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[–] DankosaurusRex 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yes.

All social programs are welfare. All are backed by coercive force. All subsidize bad behavior.

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[–] DankosaurusRex 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Should add that the only entitlements you should get is knowing that the previous generations didn’t borrow at your expense and that they didnt nuke your culture.

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[–] Justaddcoffee 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Stealing (welfare) is wrong.

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[–] Speakfree [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Mmmmmkay.

Do you have a clear definition though? Or is it people who've contributed vs people who haven't?