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[–] Mustard_of_puppets 0 points 42 points (+42|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I own my own HVAC business, mostly working on oil and gas heating systems, I do great.

It's really dirty though and you'll find yourself in tight spaces working at awkward angles. I've never gone home a single day without bleeding too.

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[–] UlyssesEMcGill 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Are you knuckles perpetually scraped?

Thank you for providing a service that benefits others on a daily basis.

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[–] Mustard_of_puppets 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Firstly thank you for the appreciation.

Yes, fingertip cuts from sheetmetal are more common and much worse though, metal splinters are really common too, it's been a long time since I've been able to enjoy a bag of salt and vinegar chips, I try to wear gloves as much as I can too but sometimes you need your fingers to feel around where you can't see.

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[–] Gigglestick 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What job is that?

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[–] Maroonsaint 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

I sell weed you should get into my business. I don’t even have to pay taxes. That’s a joke government don’t kill me

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[–] Mustard_of_puppets 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I already don't pay taxes.

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[–] con77 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

its not a job until you bleed on it. Former carpenter/steelworker/concrete/docks/wood floor worker.

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[–] middle_path 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Former chef - it's still a job, it's just harder to stay in shape..

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[–] EvilSeagull 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Cuts in the cold were interesting, you were too cold to feel it and didn't realize how bad it was until you saw the blood.

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[–] Stayedclassy 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Its hot and cold

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[–] AmaleksHairyAss 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

It seems to me that HVAC would be substantially future proof. Even after HVAC systems are automagically included in new buildings someone's going to have to deal with an enormous variety of legacy systems for the next 150 years.

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[–] Gargilius 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Even the solar / geothermal / heat pump whatever newfangled stuff is going to break eventually, and we'll need someone to fix it.

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[–] odayerryday327 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The systems may change to using more geothermal type setups to increase sustainability and future cost savings but it sure as shit isnt going away. Buildings will always need at least fresh air pumped into them and conditioned air being necessary for comfort and efficiency of building occupants.

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[–] lordbeatlejuicethe1 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

i went to trade school for it and will tell you unless you have your own buisness you will not get big money but it is very easy work compared to laboring construction

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[–] Mustard_of_puppets 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

I agree but don't go into business for yourself until working for someone else for at least 5 years or so to get the real world experience school doesn't teach you. 5 years isn't much. And you can't go into business for yourself come into a problem and just give up. One way or another the job needs to be done and done properly.

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[–] lordbeatlejuicethe1 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

yeah i agree about going to work for someone else at least for a couple of years. i think if someone is fulltime a couple years they will have bare minimum but 5 would be ideal

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[–] Maroonsaint 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago 

But I miss hauling a thousand 40 pound bags of cement up hills and pointing finger guns at the back of my bosses head with the other employees. You just don’t get that quality of experience being certified in anything

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[–] fuzzysaucer 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

40 lb bags? Are those for women or something? 80 lb bags is the standard.

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[–] cuello_rojo 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah, but after you move up you get to sit in the air conditioned job trailer with the foreman and look out the window and shoot finger guns and laugh at your employees hauling 40 lb bags of cement around, while making twice what they do.

So it's all good.

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[–] HarveyKlinger 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

HVAC is a good trade and a decent side job is installing whole house vacuum systems in new construction.

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[–] ten_comments_is_dumb 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Cool, but the problem is whole-house vacuum systems are kind of a joke. You can carry around an awesome standalone vacuum much more easily than you can carry around 25' of hose and an attachment that is almost as bulky as a standalone.

I still like the concept, though.

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[–] HarveyKlinger 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I didn't say use them, sell them, or even know much about them. People in good neighborhoods building a new house seem to ask for them. Installing them are easy money. I've been asked to install them from multiple people and this is NOT my area. I can't explain it.

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[–] MaxVieuxlieu 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Depends where you are. Las Vegas and Phoenix have more work than they can handle in the summer, but almost none in the winter. A lot of the country the opposite is true. If you want to live in the desert in the summer and someplace cold in the winter, you can make a lot of money. Or get another seasonal job in the offseason. Either way it’s definitely above minimum wage.

And I promise you, when you fix someone’s AC in July in Phoenix, they will be very grateful.

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[–] cyclops1771 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

And I promise you, when you fix someone’s AC in July in Phoenix, they will be very grateful.

That sounds like story time!!! How grateful will they be??

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[–] MaxVieuxlieu 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I have nothing specific, but I offered my AC guys lunch and water, Gatorade etc. They said they didn’t want lunch cause last customer already got it for them.

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[–] odayerryday327 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I delivered portable ACs for a bit and they are always super happy to see you. I was let free to wander around banks, grow houses, federal buildings, old folks homes, campuses etc. Surprisingly the only place that was very strict where I went was Excel Energy, they didnt even want to let me out of my truck without full PPE on.

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[–] sakuramboo 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

HVAC is a decent trade. But, how much you can enjoy it depends on where you are doing it and for who.

For example, a friend of mine does HVAC work for commercial businesses in the NY/NJ area. In the summer time he is on tar roofs having to fix AC units. Not enjoyable in the slightest. And in the dead of winter, same thing. Bundling up and bearing the wind chill is about as enjoyable as a punch to the nuts. But, it's his business and he makes a very decent living.

For residential homes, it's better but the weather can still kick your ass. But, if you are good at it work is pretty constant.

If you start your own business, expect to work long hours and weekends. If you work for a union, be prepared to do very little work and not have a feeling of accomplishment.

If you start your own, spend some time to get buddy/buddy with your local general contractors. If they like your work and your prices are decent, they will keep your name in their roladex whenever they have any renovation jobs.

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[–] NoisyCricket 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

HVAC is a great trade. If you're business savvy you can really grow it into something awesome. It's hot, cold, and hard work. You will be stinky, sweaty, and work long hours. But the benefit of it is that in the right market you can easily pull in a healthy six digit income once you have a couple of guys working for you. This is assuming you want to grow it.

There are many of these types of jobs which can be done with trade schools. Now you understand why everyone is pushing for you to go to college, become heavily in debt, for a degree which almost certainly is useless. Because degree programs are now so expensive, most people who go to college will never break even for their investment in education.

Even machining is a technical field these days, via CNC. These require computer skills and math. If you're top tier you probably have some electronics background. All of which can be learned in a trade schools.

This is why Mike Rowe is fighting for people to pay attention to trade schools and or highschools to restore their trade programs like wood and metal shops, and even specializations like welding and mechanic trades.

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[–] spherical_cube 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I wish someone had set me down when I was younger and outlined which lines of work allow you to go work for yourself and which ones you'll always have a boss looking over your shoulder. Just because you can do something and have the aptitude for it - doesn't mean you should.

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