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[–] BlackGrapeDrank 1 points 63 points (+64|-1) ago 

this is part of the communist/feminists movement. atomize the family unit, champion single momhood.

feminism has removed the shame factor which helped keep women in line and faithful to their husbands and family.

Now sluttery is championed and supported. thus the you go grrrl single mommery

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[–] 9-11 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

And she has herself a literal slave for 25 years.

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[–] justdontberacist 2 points 22 points (+24|-2) ago 

You make it sound like women need to be shamed to be faithful lovers and mothers. I disagree. There is nothing wrong with women. I think most women are normally faithful wives, and it is modern extreme-left politics that is out of line for teaching women to be ashamed to be feminine, to be overly promiscuous, or self-absorbed.

I have had a lot of girlfriends, and so I'm not singling anyone out, and I'm not perfect either, but I have literally had a few message me after years, even over a decade, with stories about how they, literally quoting here, "brainwashed by feminism and it ruined my life and our relationship." Yea.

I wish I grew up in the 50s.

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[–] Islamiscancer 3 points 21 points (+24|-3) ago 

Most women are whatever society allows them to be. Without a strong social contract, women turn to trash. Ergo, women need to be shamed..

Women in the 50s and all that were shamed, and it works wonders because women are emotional creatures, meaning they seek emotional connection and validation from their peers - men don't do this any near as much as women (hence why so many men are comfortable living alone for years innawoods and women can't go 10 minutes without a Facebook update).

We are social creatures, just women are naturally more social than us - possibly an ancestral trait that mothers needed to keep so they knew who in the tribe was sick, who had what and how they could use that information to better provide for their young - but I'm not quoting here, just what I would assume based on my knowledge of humans and human evolution.

When society was at its best, for both men and women, women were oppressed. Not because it was evil men doing it, but because it was and still is, what is best for women.

In a virtuous society, a utopia from my perspective, women are oppressed and men are faithful to their women (girlfriends who will become wives, wives, mothers and daughters).

To say Women should not be shamed tells me you don't understand women very well at all.

Feminism is a societal cancer that has ruined us. And we will lose this war and be outbred by shitskins and Muslims before its over.

Any society that can control its women is a society that will live on, not necessarily "prosper", as prosper by definition takes its meaning from our twisted system, but they will live on and outlive those who put the " rights" of women before those women's "duties".

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[–] Sarcastatron_9000 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I think you're right. If you listen to what women say about their choice to be promiscuous, many of them come to deeply regret it and say that it didn't make them happy.

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[–] lexsird 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Bitches, there's a red pill on the wall.

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[–] BlackGrapeDrank 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

partially agree. however I never said women "have to be shamed".

your interpretation added this. and we are both making the same point.

shame is a powerful motivator and was a cultural norm that was one, among many, protectors of keeping and encouraging the nuclear family.

women, when left to their own unconstrained sexuality, where shame has been converted to praise, is where were at now. and we agree on the results.

And women are not men. they need to be guided and protected, by their husband and family. not the state.

women don't need to be shamed to be good wives and mothers per se, however shame of single motherhood needs to be a core tenet of social-cultural dynamics. and it needs to be a known consequence that is an instilled fear.

on the positive side the value of women being attributed to a good wife and loving mother needs to again become a core value. and thus their beauty and fertile years during youth need to be atrivuted to finding a strong and lofe long husband. and their extended value is in being a great mother, grand mother and homemaker.

again shaming women as a direct and absolute need wasn't my point. however shame needs to be known as a certain consequence. it's part of a return to traditional values.

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[–] Mind_Games 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Perfectly stated.