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[–] BlackGrapeDrank 1 points 63 points (+64|-1) ago 

this is part of the communist/feminists movement. atomize the family unit, champion single momhood.

feminism has removed the shame factor which helped keep women in line and faithful to their husbands and family.

Now sluttery is championed and supported. thus the you go grrrl single mommery

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[–] 9-11 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

And she has herself a literal slave for 25 years.

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[–] justdontberacist 2 points 22 points (+24|-2) ago 

You make it sound like women need to be shamed to be faithful lovers and mothers. I disagree. There is nothing wrong with women. I think most women are normally faithful wives, and it is modern extreme-left politics that is out of line for teaching women to be ashamed to be feminine, to be overly promiscuous, or self-absorbed.

I have had a lot of girlfriends, and so I'm not singling anyone out, and I'm not perfect either, but I have literally had a few message me after years, even over a decade, with stories about how they, literally quoting here, "brainwashed by feminism and it ruined my life and our relationship." Yea.

I wish I grew up in the 50s.

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[–] Islamiscancer 3 points 21 points (+24|-3) ago 

Most women are whatever society allows them to be. Without a strong social contract, women turn to trash. Ergo, women need to be shamed..

Women in the 50s and all that were shamed, and it works wonders because women are emotional creatures, meaning they seek emotional connection and validation from their peers - men don't do this any near as much as women (hence why so many men are comfortable living alone for years innawoods and women can't go 10 minutes without a Facebook update).

We are social creatures, just women are naturally more social than us - possibly an ancestral trait that mothers needed to keep so they knew who in the tribe was sick, who had what and how they could use that information to better provide for their young - but I'm not quoting here, just what I would assume based on my knowledge of humans and human evolution.

When society was at its best, for both men and women, women were oppressed. Not because it was evil men doing it, but because it was and still is, what is best for women.

In a virtuous society, a utopia from my perspective, women are oppressed and men are faithful to their women (girlfriends who will become wives, wives, mothers and daughters).

To say Women should not be shamed tells me you don't understand women very well at all.

Feminism is a societal cancer that has ruined us. And we will lose this war and be outbred by shitskins and Muslims before its over.

Any society that can control its women is a society that will live on, not necessarily "prosper", as prosper by definition takes its meaning from our twisted system, but they will live on and outlive those who put the " rights" of women before those women's "duties".

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[–] Sarcastatron_9000 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I think you're right. If you listen to what women say about their choice to be promiscuous, many of them come to deeply regret it and say that it didn't make them happy.

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[–] lexsird 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Bitches, there's a red pill on the wall.

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[–] BlackGrapeDrank 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

partially agree. however I never said women "have to be shamed".

your interpretation added this. and we are both making the same point.

shame is a powerful motivator and was a cultural norm that was one, among many, protectors of keeping and encouraging the nuclear family.

women, when left to their own unconstrained sexuality, where shame has been converted to praise, is where were at now. and we agree on the results.

And women are not men. they need to be guided and protected, by their husband and family. not the state.

women don't need to be shamed to be good wives and mothers per se, however shame of single motherhood needs to be a core tenet of social-cultural dynamics. and it needs to be a known consequence that is an instilled fear.

on the positive side the value of women being attributed to a good wife and loving mother needs to again become a core value. and thus their beauty and fertile years during youth need to be atrivuted to finding a strong and lofe long husband. and their extended value is in being a great mother, grand mother and homemaker.

again shaming women as a direct and absolute need wasn't my point. however shame needs to be known as a certain consequence. it's part of a return to traditional values.

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[–] Mind_Games 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Perfectly stated.

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[–] VuckFoat 1 points 36 points (+37|-1) ago 

It's a deflection. A way of trying to shame a person into not judging them for their clearly poor decision making skills. They should feel shame.

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[–] Artofchoke 3 points 21 points (+24|-3) ago 

The only person that deserves sympathy is the child, born a hostage to a selfish, thoughtless piece of shit.

Children are entitled to stable homes where they are wanted and expected, with bodies and minds capable of functioning normally.

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[–] Artofchoke 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Sorry, I disagree. It shouldn't be legal to force children into life in broken bodies, or homes where they are going to be beaten, starved, abused or murdered.

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[–] prairie 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

A society that doesn't treat kids with respect is one on the way to ruin.

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[–] Reddit-is-kill 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Sympathy for the child will result in stricter and better culture norms. If everyone believes children deserve a traditional family, it would be (frankly it is) atrocious for a woman to pat herself on the back for being a single mother. She would be seen as abusing her child, which is how i see it.

Think about it this way, in order for a mother to be proud of being single, she has to lack sympathy for her child. That person might say "kids aren't entitled to having fathers."

That's just plain selfishness.

We have a duty to society to help establish traditional families, best way is to sympathize with the children for not having that and shame the mothers for not valuing it.

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[–] Norm85 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

It is a carryover cultural norm from when the most common reasons for being a single mother where the husband died in a war, died working to provide for their family, or died from disease.

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[–] keldoen 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The worse part is that it still happens, but these whores that either got knocked up by a stranger, or divorced their husbands and took the kids are being held in the same regard as families who have actually suffered.

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[–] CobraStallone 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Maybe they got nagged away by their wives, ever think of that? I jest, my grandfather on my father's side was an alcoholic wife beater that didn't fully provide for them, some people are just dicks.

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[–] Warmoose76 2 points 18 points (+20|-2) ago 

They always get treated better in the work place too. I've seen multiple times when they get raises just because they are stupid enough to have kids that they can barely take care of. I hate people that have kids and can't even take care of them, it is bullshit. Only have kids if you are responsible and have the means to take care of them, otherwise you are a piece of shit and a burden on every one else.

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[–] IndianaJones75 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Muslims

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[–] JackBurton1 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

And who forced the Muslims upon us? Starts with a J.

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[–] Poohwhisperer 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

Great question! When middle America quit being middle America, you know, wives had to go to work to make ends meet..the rich mother fuckers got richer..and nobody paid attention to the kids..

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[–] Schreiber 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Thats what Soros the the globalist wants. The destruction of middle class population from earth.

Few rich elites (his cronies and henchmen) and everybody else poor and brainwashed. Orwellian style neo-communism authoritarian new world order which punishes wrongthink.

Every "policies" made by the political left would eventually lead to this.

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[–] AinzOown 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Because it's probably not easy to raise a child alone even if it was their fuck up, though it might not have been. It's not the kids fault and if you intentionally make the moms life even harder you're indirectly hurting the kid too. She probably fucked up but I've seen single moms that still do right by their kids.

Btw, Is data on white single mothers conclusive? Are the kids that much worse off? I've only seen data where they mix the races which gets bogged down by all the niggers with no dad, then people blame single parents instead of the real problem, niggers.

Ben Shapiro does this, not sure if he's doing it intentionally or just being tricky and finding a way to talk about the nigger problem in a PC way.

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[–] keldoen 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The issue probably isn't nearly as bad with white single mothers, but it's still a problem. Children need both parents, they can become emotionally stunted without one of them.

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[–] daskapitalist [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yes, the outcomes are abysmal regardless of race.

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