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[–] TheKobold 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

Why would any one want to touch her Soyboy husband?

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[–] shrink 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Just say "covfefe" and you win

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[–] KILLtheRATS 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

This is the truth. Just make a fool of her

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[–] Reverse-Flash 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

No, seriously, grab her by the pussy.

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Grab em by the antifa

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[–] Bobwillneverdie 1 points 31 points (+32|-1) ago  (edited ago)

  • Point out that Obama banned travel from those same countries that Trump tried to ban travel to 8 times, each time there was 0 negative media backlash.
  • Tell her to just look at the stock market since his election
  • Ask her for a real piece of proof for any negative Trump comment she makes about something the media says he did in the past (a large percentage of it is total BS).
  • You are going to be better off making the debate about specific things that Trump wants to do or has done, rather than the blanket statement "Donald Trump is good/bad"
  • Show her everything Hillary has done.

Be ready for tons of "well I cant being myself to think that way" and "well I actually care about others" as her arguments. XD Also be ready for her to think she "won" regardless of the outcome of the debate. I just gave up arguing with them, if they want to go through life being an idiot, that's their choice.

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[–] captainstrange 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If you're arguing with an idiot just repeat their talking points and then pretend that supports your talking points.

"Trump banned travel to those countries. Exactly. Thats why I agree with you that he loves muslims. You're absolutely right."

They'll become confused, probably definitely angry, and begin to say "yes, but thats not what I was saying, you're putting words in my mouth."

And just keep responding with things like "No, no, no, I'm agreeing with you, trump acting like he cares about muslims by instituting travel restrictions to groups that make muslims look bad is terrible."

If she disagrees, then she is admitting trump is trying to prevent muslims from looking bad (kek), and if she disagrees then you can just claim "you just hate all muslims."

Treat it as a game of verbal football, back and forth, and exhaust them until they admit you're right or stomp off. They'll be left dazed, confused, and unsure about what was even said on either side. When they come back later (and they will), espouse how much they sounded racist and basically take their own, earlier position. Now that its an argument and they vacated their position (and are unsure about themselves), they can't push for center, so without even noticing they'll start arguing against their own position to some small degree.

This is called gaslighting.

Remember, these people are mentally-ill individuals who have been ideologically weaponized and this is the only way to disarm them.

Like metal thats been warped by heat, the only way to unwarp it is to reheat it. They've had their reality distorted and the only way to fix that is to distort it even further.

I've seen it. I've done it. It works.

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[–] no-hurry-no-pause 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I've seen it. I've done it. It works.

It is what their side has been doing to us from day one. We've always been trying to argue and discuss honestly and logically, and thats why we have always been losing.

When discussing politics with somebody, use the first 1-2 minutes to assess whether he is arguing honestly and logically. If he makes even the tiniest lie or refuses a tiniest explanation, youre wasting your time and have to give up on arguing with him immediately. You can either simply leave the debate or win bonus points by making him angry.

Making rational people "lose" debates by making them angry is how leftists win against arguments. Leftists do not really care about all those arguments, they only care about winning, and so should we. It simply makes no sense to waste time into trying to reason somebody out of a position he has not reasoned himself into. Just bury the lying motherfucker under a load of rage-inducing nonsense and let his blood boil.

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[–] cosmic_climb 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This is a good start. You won't sway liberals with facts. They filter reality through their limbic system. Feelings and platitudes are held higher by them than results or statistics. They don't care about them, and they will just dismiss the source of the data or ask if it's peer-reviewed. Their priority is being part of the in-group and to be regarded by others as important, intelligent, wise, superior, etc (EDIT - relates to the r/K selection model). They want to be recognized for their moral righteousness, because they consider themselves the anointed intellectuals who will guide the rest of us morons to utopia. Freeing the oppressed is not as important as looking like you're freeing the oppressed. Focus on their moral and ethical inconsistencies. The rape epidemic in Hollywood. Pedophilia. Planned Parenthood and the black abortion rate. Basically anything Thomas Sowell writes can be used against a liberal. Liberals regard victimization, exploitation and neglect of the "downtrodden" as the most reprehensible act in existence... show them how they are guilty of this.

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[–] Shiggz 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Anytime I find myself with a leftist I start half jokingly saying they are being racist and homophobic. My version I call gas-lite. If they feel comfortable they'll go on the attack. They usually dont have their own principles or rhoughts they just repeat narrative affirming expressions that are tedious to deconstruct. They will almost never argue from a place of good faith.

Just know if you take the time and patience. Their conditioning will reject anything you say but silent bystanders might have been Redpilled. So talk to the audience not msnbc Pavlovian barkers.

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[–] tarnished_spoons 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Kafkatrap them. Nice.

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[–] tendiesonfloor 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago 

The stock market is a bad one. It's riding on $10+ trillion in money printed out of thin air, annually.

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[–] Bradox 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

wait... what? That's news to me. Is this new during the Trump administration?

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[–] IBNSFW 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

liberal sister in law is in town and she wants to have a "debate"

She wants to argue, not debate. When she makes a point, ask her questions. When she explains, ask her about it. Make no points of your own, only ask her questions on her points. Help her defeat herself.

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[–] Greenzero86 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yep, SJWs asking themselves questions about their own inconsistencies and falsehoods is the cure for their cancer.

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[–] BlackGrapeDrank 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

best answer.

make her explain her empty arguments until she's exhausted. then tool the shit out of her.

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[–] R34p_Th3_Wh0r1w1nd 1 points 16 points (+17|-1) ago 

https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/11/14/true-to-his-word-dhs-data-show-president-trump-is-going-after-pedophiles/

Rest your case. Not a single point she can make could out weigh the facts in the way of good on this single point.

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[–] Lafall 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago  (edited ago)

as the sun goes down drive her to the most mexi congoid laweless shithole drug dealing poverty part of town, have your doors locked when driving, maybe even have something on you but now start your debate...with the vermin and dealers outside on the streets, and then comment isn't it amazing how people in Japan and Norway etc can safely walk home...keep insisting these streets belong to the law abiding citizens of American, the women, the old men, the children and Americans should be able to walk their own streets safely without incident like they do in other nations. Also mention daring of the left Jimmy Carter agreed with Trumps travel ban, banned islamists after the islamo hijackers invaded the US embassy and took Americans hostage, also keep mentioning Hillary defended pedophiles against a female child victim Kathy Shelton...if she starts to agree at all finally tell her to do an internet search on 'George Soros'

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[–] con77 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

then shove her out

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[–] lexsird 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

No shit, best recipe for a big red pill, drop the cunt off with the nignogs.

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[–] SurfinMindWaves 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Perfect Voat reply. Made me laugh.

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[–] no-hurry-no-pause 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

isn't it amazing how people in ... Norway etc can safely walk home

No they cant. Anders Breivik cited the attacks on him by Pakis on his way home in Oslo as one of the reasons for the later Utoya shooting.

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[–] edistojim 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Rule number one. Never argue with an idiot, they pound you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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[–] Artofchoke 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Is vehement hatred for HRC the same as 'supporting' Trump? Some would have voted for a marshmallow over HRC.

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[–] frenemy 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

i said i would rather have a tangerine as president than obama in the last 3 years. surprise, surprise.......

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[–] Schreiber 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

A tangerine would make a decent president these days.

At the very least it is not capable of perpetrating white genocide.

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[–] OhRutherfordBehave 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

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[–] captainstrange 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

From what I understand some guys and gals on military bases can't view or use wnd, so here is a full-site screenshot hosted on imgoat.

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[–] Shitgoyzsay [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for.

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[–] fartyshorts 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Do you know of any similar lists to compare to? Obama, Bush, etc. I'd like to compare first years in office. :)

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