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[–] Zinnsee 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I copy what I wrote in another thread about vaccination:

Vaccination is not a Yes or No issue. Every single vaccine has to be looked at individually. Are there good ones out there? Defenitely. Are some people getting sick because of a vaccine? Definetely. Is there a possibility that big pharma is so greedy that it knowingly makes you sick so it can sell you drugs for a lifetime. Definetely.

and from another thread:

Our body needs water to be healthy. Therefore drinking liquids is good. Is drinking any liquid good? Of course not! So is every single vaccine good for you? Probably not. And this is what pisses me off the most about this pro- and antivaxxer rally. Vaccination is not categorically good or bad. It's the different vaccines that we should take a closer look at and not the theory behind vaccination itself. So in my eyes everybody who categorically says vaccines are good is naive as fuck and has no clue what he/she is talking about. We know as a fact that many drugs had to be banned in hindsight even though the FDA approved of them in the first place. So why should I trust vaccines more than any other drug? Especially since corruption is a huge problem inside the pharma buisiness. And something else to consider: The idea behind every vaccine is that a person gets deliberately injected with a virus (or other disease). But that virus has been weakened so that the immune system of the body can handle the fight and build antibodies. This means that the vaccinated person endures every stage of the sickness. Therefore if you get vaccinated for the flu, you actually will spread the virus at some point. So by vaccinating a lot of people we actually also help the virus beeing around. But in my opinion the biggest problem is our inability to quantify if a specific vaccine works or not. For other drugs this is a lot easier: Something is not good -> give the patient the drug -> did it make the problem less or erase it completely? If Yes -> the drug works. But when testing the efficiency of vaccines this is a lot more problematic. After the vaccination the number of built up antibodies are counted. If a certain number is reached the vaccines is seen as effective. BUT the vaccine is a modified (weakened or even dead) form of the virus/disease so we actually have no clue if the antibodies also are effective in fighting the real deal. And since it's not ethical to infect vaccinated people deliberately we can not measure the real effectiveness of vaccines. And if all the above was not troubling enough think about the mischief one could do here. If you have the possibility to inject a newborn with watever the hell you want. How easy would it be to make a whole generation deliberately sick so you can sell them some drugs for their entire lifetime? If you grasp the possible profit behind such a scheme, you can also see how much money you would be able to spend to bribe such institutions like the FDA.

Vaccination can be a very good thing but not every vaccine is.

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[–] RedditisPropaganda31 [S] 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Well thought out argument but this is a simple truth:
The FDA and Big Pharma are beyond corrupt, aka run by psychopaths, and want us to be sick for profit.

Could a few select vaccines help? Maybe. Have humans survived fine throughout history without vaccines? Yes. Hell, we even beat the bubonic plague.

Let's talk about how super-bugs resistant to antibiotics are coming up.

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[–] Zinnsee 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Yeah I don't trust Big Pharma either, they were caught too many times doing nasty stuff. I rather die/get sick from a natural disease than from a man made one.

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[–] XSS1337 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

do you want a bottle before your nap ?