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[–] clamhurt_legbeard 3 points 78 points (+81|-3) ago 

Fuck reddit.

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[–] TheodoreKent [S] 1 points 21 points (+22|-1) ago 

Good answer.

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[–] HarveyHarveyJones 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

That's opinionated but I agree.

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[–] TheWorstImaginable 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Lol Jesus man maybe that has some useful stuff in it but 2 pages of "no one loved me" is just too much of a turnoff. Yea, I was raised by a single moron too. Boo hoo

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[–] Merlynn 1 points 41 points (+42|-1) ago 

MGTOW is only a stop gap measure at best. Humans must reproduce or the species dies out. In the end,we need a better long term solution.

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[–] JesusIsCool 4 points 48 points (+52|-4) ago 

There's still plenty of people reproducing, MGTOW was basically a few men getting bad rap in divorce and being quite vocal about it and telling other young men the game is rigged currently in favor of women in marriage.

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[–] o0shad0o 0 points 74 points (+74|-0) ago 

They're not wrong either, and it needs to be fixed.

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[–] kevo7777 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago  (edited ago)

And all of that is completely true and it doesn't even end there. The game is rigged in the criminal courts, government, and in education. MGTOW is legit and I wish people on here would give it a chance. We're not all overweight ugly virgin losers.

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[–] TauCeti 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

More than a few. Go ahead and get married if you want, but you should at least know what you're getting into.

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[–] Merlynn 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

That game was always rigged in their favor. Why do you think women are so eager to get married?

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

dude, sex bots + arttificial wombs

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[–] Merlynn 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah,if we can get them working. And they don't try to wipe out humanity.

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[–] 7e62ce85 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

The solution is called male authority and economic freedom.

We will be waiting for you over here: /v/emergencynation/2130938

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[–] Merlynn 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

We're never going to have economic freedom because someone has to do the work. It's why many people resign themselves to a life of labor. Someone's got to do the work and they're not doing anything else. As for "male authority",I'd rather have good authority that simply cares about the people it's ruling. I don't care what gender they are so long as they run a fair country. But I will gladly agree that what we have now is not fair to anyone and needs to go.

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[–] BlackSheepBrouhaha 0 points 36 points (+36|-0) ago 

MGTOW is a response to Affirmative Action, the family court system, and the judicial system. These schemes discriminate against men. Many men campaign for Men's Rights, but they have not achieved a single legislated victory. If the game is rigged, the only winning move is not to play.

You can read Dr. Helen Smith's Men on Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - and Why It Matters or The Feminist Lie by Bob Lewis for a comprehensive look at the state of the game today.

MGTOW fails the categorical imperative. @Merlynn said it, humans must reproduce or the species dies out. The question is, how much discrimination will men tolerate before they quit marriage and relationships all together? We can see that some men are early adopters. They see what's coming down the pipe.

Many MGTOW are just men on strike. They want to have a family, but can't justify the risk. They are not smarter than Elon Musk, more Alpha than Brad Pitt, or more funny than Robin Williams. If some of the best men among us can't make marriage work, it's foolish to think you'd be the exception. There is a minority who believe romantic relationships cloud the mind, that women inherently manipulate to gain advantage, and that the government wants a society of obedient worker bees so they are phasing men and masculinity out.

They might be right. They make good arguments and cite their sources, so I support their movement, though I'm not MGTOW myself.

I still think I'm the exception.

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[–] MGTOWrefugee 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

This. Exactly.

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[–] BSmith321 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I still think I'm the exception.

At least you go in understanding what the risks actually are, unlike most men throughout history.

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[–] powerpete 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I still think I'm the exception.

Naw man, there's a bunch of us lady lovers who are going to pump out enough children to cover the MGTOWs - we've got the rest of these guys covered.

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[–] AeroHammer 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

As long as they're white/honorary I'm fine with that

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[–] Merlynn 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'm just saying,it's not a long term solution. Strikes have to end at some point and everyone gets back to work or there won't be anything to go back to.

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[–] BSmith321 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Not necessarily. Some workers don't go back.

In the mouse utopia experiments extinction was the result time after time. Once the populations peaked...the crash was unstoppable time and time again. Now, do I think that everything that is going on is going to cause humans to go extinct? No, I don't. However, there are many parallels to the utopia experiments. So, sections of our global population may very well crash and burn.

1) Strikes don't have to end.

2) Strikes don't have to end for groups of people.

3) Strikes don't have to end for individuals.

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[–] Crensch 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Funny how the oldest current iteration started in Japan a decade before the kiked US.

If it was part of the plan, it was simply a reaction to the engineered multiculturalism/feminism, not a direct result of actions taken by the kikes.

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[–] WEHRMACHT_BITCHES_AT 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

TRP and MGTOW are ripe for redpillings though. I know many dyed in the wool racial ultra-nationalists who came from these purgatories.

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[–] Chempergrill 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I put up with your kike hating until you show that you can't stop for a moment to take a look at men's concerns.

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[–] johnmclean 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I don't think it is.

Everything else in society today is cultural Marxism designed to destroy the west, mgtow is just an initial reaction.

I think what will happen is men will eventually realise that they will have to fight back.

We are almost at tipping point already.

The powder keg is almost full. All it needs is a spark.

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[–] kevo7777 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Oh sorrah massah! I be goin back to the plantation so mah wife's son can get more chyle support. Please don't beat me massah! I be a good boy and pay mo taxes, fight in dem wars, n be fired n jailed fo lookin at a woman da wrong way!

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[–] snowed_in 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Maybe they plan on banning it to give it legitimacy among its members.

They know it will pop up somewhere else - probably with more controlled leadership.

That reminds me . . does anyone know Putt's real name? LOL

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[–] Nekochan11 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Incel: Involuntary Celibate.

MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way. They are voluntarily celibate and have no interest in romantic relationships of any kind.

They are entirely different , but the SJWs on Reddit need a new enemy to use to justify their terrible behavior, so they are setting up a false equivalence so that MGTOW can be the next target.

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[–] BSmith321 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Exactly. Thank you.

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[–] Tropic-cancer573 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

It's only good for red pilling people about marriage court other than that it's not good to further the divide between men and woman. If boosting healthy families is what you want. Also I saw MGTOW edged into a bathroom door once

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[–] BSmith321 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The nuclear family is a fairly recent addition to the human world. It was brought about by things like agriculture and religion. They say: "It takes a village to raise a child". Well, I'd guess that there's a whole lot more truth to that than you realize. Humans are tribal creatures. Without getting into agriculture + tribal growth and all that...it does take a village to raise a child. 1 father + 1 Mother + 1 or more children has not been the human norm.

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[–] enormousatom 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Western civilization is so far the height of civilization. Guess what, fuck nut? It's also recent. And do you know what the backbone of western civilization is? The nuclear family. If you want to go back to drawing in the shit with sticks then you go right the fuck ahead.

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[–] JesusIsCool 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

Have you seen the Guardian and Engadget now writing articles on incels?

http://archive.is/PTOGA - Guardian Article

The group regularly indulged in violent fantasies.

They didn't even bother to look at other sub reddits like inceltears who had multiple accounts with Elliot Rodger names posing as incels, some of the posts were violent if you can search their post history http://archive.is/UGCFF <- That was a moderator on inceltears doing that

Before incels sub went down you also had a popular verified poster on incels forgetting to log off then posting on inceltears http://archive.is/AqsAW https://kek.gg/i/DRSwz.png

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[–] JesusIsCool 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

I think reddit sucks

There's niceguys, which are basically man hating subreddit

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[–] kevo7777 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Reddit absolutely sucks. I'd rather be around here and have people that speak their fucking mind than be around a bunch of faggots LARPing as intellectual hipsters.

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[–] gelsk 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

// , Does voat.co censor or discourage certain perspectives, too, though?

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