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[–]10793708?2 points
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the death penalty should only be available for sentencing in cases which provide incontrovertible evidence of guilt for murder, child rape, or treason. if such evidence exists the penalty should be carried out on the day of sentencing. there should be no appeals and there should be no time wasted. however, i do realize that this is a very high standard of evidence and it should be, because lives are on the line.
Beyond all reasonable doubt is already the standard, has been for decades, and still leads to situations where it's been proven that we've still had innocent people on death row for years.
Best solution I've come up with is life in prison for those cases, but if you have multiple executable offenses, separately tried, that's what capital punishment is for.
I'm aware of this and it isnt a suitable reason to give the death penalty for the reasons youve stated. I specifically mentioned incontrovertible evidence because it is essentially 100% proof of the commission of the crime. reasonable doubt can easily be overcome with a slick lawyer.
Any sentence that is longer then the convicts average life expectancy without the possibility of parole, should be an automatic execution. It is wrong to warehouse people for the sake of sponging tax payer money. Put the animals down and be done with it. Housing them is a timebomb, because in certain situations it is legal to just release them. If the authority can not provide safety for prisoners they have to be released.
I believe it should be reserved for treasonous government employees, found to have acted in the interest of foreign powers or to the detriment of the American people overall, including any attempt to subvert the Constitution and it's amendments.
I also feel that the appeals process should be shortened. To address the overpopulation of our prison system, I'd render all prisoners indentured servants, their labor available to the highest bidder. Individuals in minimum security prisons would be taught trades, so they might turn their life around in a vibrant, virtually tax free economy. Violent offenders and thieves would work to repay their victims. Rapists and murderers would get a mandatory minimum sentence of 35 years without the possibility of parole, and anyone that serves more than one sentence for a total period exceeding 5 years in prison or more than two sentences exceeding 2 years should be in prison for life with the possibility of a final chance in the form of parole. Blow that, and you never taste freedom again.
I think the most affordable way to carry out executions that can't be whined about by the Left is to introduce a lethal dose of heroin, and I think we need a neutralizing personal firearm for use by law enforcement that is non lethal but is reliable. Until stun guns are foolproof, capable of putting people from 400 pounds to 75 pounds on the ground, and don't risk killing people with heart conditions, I recommend we use firearms in exclusivity.
For bonus points, I feel that house arrest should be something 100% of murderers and sexual predators must have for life. Ankle monitors should be explosive.
[–]therealkrispy0 points
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Eco friendly in the sense that I think the largest threat to our environment is a failure to create a market for outdoor air purifiers, which are a real thing that, if implemented on our nations highways and in parking garages, major Urban and metropolitan areas, power plants, industrial parks, airports, etc. could solve 100% of our emissions problems. I feel that the numbers on global warming are dramatically augmented and demonstrably unscientific. As a Boy Scout, I'm a firm believer in Leave No Trace, and I feel that our nation needs to solve pollution of our forests, parks, roadways and waters, and that cutting down on microbead usage in cosmetics is the best easy thing we can do for the environment and public health.
Not even just for crimes. Accidents, random acts of violence, whatever. The only real goal in the life of any creature is to die and everything else is just filler.
That said, there have been more than a few wrongful executions that have ended up being carried out due to a corrupt and inept justice system. I say we expand it nationwide with a stipulation that if anyone is found to have wrongfully contributed to the wrongful execution of any man that we also execute that individual. This would include witnesses, judges, prosecutors and cops.
Problem solved.
Edit: oh yeah, the cost. Allow victims, family's of victims, to administer the execution.(even hire it out if necessary) No more *here's your three drug cocktail for a nice peaceful nap shit. A bullet to the back of the head motherfucker.
It's way too expensive. I'd be for it if it didn't cost around 2-3x the price to incarcerate for life due to the lengthy appeals process and additional securitt required for death's row inmates.
Was just saying this. Private contracts with a standard for measuring the torture... Perhaps through a monitoring of psychological state with an electrode cap or something. Meet the standard and bid as low as possible to gain the contract.
[–]Greenzero860 points
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It costs the taxpayer more than life imprisonment, for some reason. That being said, giving big government the ability to decide who to kill is a slippery slope. Maybe it should be reserved for the worst of the worst, but only when there are no other options available.
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[–] 10793708? 2 points 8 points 10 points (+10|-2) ago
the death penalty should only be available for sentencing in cases which provide incontrovertible evidence of guilt for murder, child rape, or treason. if such evidence exists the penalty should be carried out on the day of sentencing. there should be no appeals and there should be no time wasted. however, i do realize that this is a very high standard of evidence and it should be, because lives are on the line.
[–] parrygrin 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Beyond all reasonable doubt is already the standard, has been for decades, and still leads to situations where it's been proven that we've still had innocent people on death row for years.
Best solution I've come up with is life in prison for those cases, but if you have multiple executable offenses, separately tried, that's what capital punishment is for.
[–] 10794127? 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I'm aware of this and it isnt a suitable reason to give the death penalty for the reasons youve stated. I specifically mentioned incontrovertible evidence because it is essentially 100% proof of the commission of the crime. reasonable doubt can easily be overcome with a slick lawyer.
[–] BitterBiped ago
Perfect opinion. Any circumstantial evidence like DNA, eye witnesses, (anything that can be planted) just goes straight to life in prison.
[–] R34p_Th3_Wh0r1w1nd 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Any sentence that is longer then the convicts average life expectancy without the possibility of parole, should be an automatic execution. It is wrong to warehouse people for the sake of sponging tax payer money. Put the animals down and be done with it. Housing them is a timebomb, because in certain situations it is legal to just release them. If the authority can not provide safety for prisoners they have to be released.
[–] therealkrispy 1 point 3 points 4 points (+4|-1) ago
I believe it should be reserved for treasonous government employees, found to have acted in the interest of foreign powers or to the detriment of the American people overall, including any attempt to subvert the Constitution and it's amendments.
I also feel that the appeals process should be shortened. To address the overpopulation of our prison system, I'd render all prisoners indentured servants, their labor available to the highest bidder. Individuals in minimum security prisons would be taught trades, so they might turn their life around in a vibrant, virtually tax free economy. Violent offenders and thieves would work to repay their victims. Rapists and murderers would get a mandatory minimum sentence of 35 years without the possibility of parole, and anyone that serves more than one sentence for a total period exceeding 5 years in prison or more than two sentences exceeding 2 years should be in prison for life with the possibility of a final chance in the form of parole. Blow that, and you never taste freedom again.
I think the most affordable way to carry out executions that can't be whined about by the Left is to introduce a lethal dose of heroin, and I think we need a neutralizing personal firearm for use by law enforcement that is non lethal but is reliable. Until stun guns are foolproof, capable of putting people from 400 pounds to 75 pounds on the ground, and don't risk killing people with heart conditions, I recommend we use firearms in exclusivity.
For bonus points, I feel that house arrest should be something 100% of murderers and sexual predators must have for life. Ankle monitors should be explosive.
I'd love to debate every point I've made here.
[–] Gigglestick 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Dude, If you're eco-friendly, You have my vote. (and legalize marijuana)
[–] therealkrispy 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Eco friendly in the sense that I think the largest threat to our environment is a failure to create a market for outdoor air purifiers, which are a real thing that, if implemented on our nations highways and in parking garages, major Urban and metropolitan areas, power plants, industrial parks, airports, etc. could solve 100% of our emissions problems. I feel that the numbers on global warming are dramatically augmented and demonstrably unscientific. As a Boy Scout, I'm a firm believer in Leave No Trace, and I feel that our nation needs to solve pollution of our forests, parks, roadways and waters, and that cutting down on microbead usage in cosmetics is the best easy thing we can do for the environment and public health.
I smoke weed 3 times a week, minimum.
[–] SJWsRuinedIt 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
I'm for death in any circumstance.
[–] Spaceballs-1 ago
Speeding? Spitting on sidewalk?
Actually, I agree.
[–] SJWsRuinedIt 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Not even just for crimes. Accidents, random acts of violence, whatever. The only real goal in the life of any creature is to die and everything else is just filler.
[–] Goathole 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I LIKE IT.
That said, there have been more than a few wrongful executions that have ended up being carried out due to a corrupt and inept justice system. I say we expand it nationwide with a stipulation that if anyone is found to have wrongfully contributed to the wrongful execution of any man that we also execute that individual. This would include witnesses, judges, prosecutors and cops.
Problem solved.
Edit: oh yeah, the cost. Allow victims, family's of victims, to administer the execution.(even hire it out if necessary) No more *here's your three drug cocktail for a nice peaceful nap shit. A bullet to the back of the head motherfucker.
[–] 10793646? 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
It's way too expensive. I'd be for it if it didn't cost around 2-3x the price to incarcerate for life due to the lengthy appeals process and additional securitt required for death's row inmates.
[–] PolybiusPizza ago
Was just saying this. Private contracts with a standard for measuring the torture... Perhaps through a monitoring of psychological state with an electrode cap or something. Meet the standard and bid as low as possible to gain the contract.
[–] Greenzero86 ago (edited ago)
It costs the taxpayer more than life imprisonment, for some reason. That being said, giving big government the ability to decide who to kill is a slippery slope. Maybe it should be reserved for the worst of the worst, but only when there are no other options available.