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[–] Hubblesphere 1 points 122 points (+123|-1) ago 

I'm new here, so can someone please explain to me why this is necessary? I thought Voat was just an alternative, not a specific competitor or anti-reddit. Why is using imgur bad?

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[–] MCVoat 0 points 119 points (+119|-0) ago 

Imgur and reddit are in bed with eachother. I think their offices are next door to eachother in the same building.

Imgur was the reason FPH was banned. Imgur started removing FPH submissions and so FPH launched an attack on imgur by flooding it with pics of the fat admins. Imgur complained to reddit and reddit stood up for their buddy.

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[–] Jimmni 29 points 168 points (+197|-29) ago  (edited ago)

This is what worries me about moving from Reddit to Voat.

I joined Reddit because of the interesting content, the tech focus and the high quality of discussions. Over time I watched it turn into a haven for jailbait, and then into a haven for bullying and hatred. The site ended up more memes than content, and the overall quality of discussion plummeted, particularly during the "pun thread" phase that was really, really tiresome.

Now I'm on Voat and I'm seeing two things:

  1. Endless fucking discussion about how awful reddit is.
  2. The same embracing of bullying and hatred that I always disliked at reddit.

I don't give a shit about freedom of speech. I have no desire to read a subreddit or subverse devoted to bullying fat people. I like that reddit put their foot down in the end regarding the jailbait subs and the FPH subs. I wish they'd done it sooner and harder regarding FPH. I think the whole business with FPH was absolutely pathetic. Sad people throwing a hissy fit because a company said "Fuck this shit, we don't want to be associated with this."

If what I can expect from Voat is more of the same, I'm wasting my time here.

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[–] HomerSimpson 0 points 45 points (+45|-0) ago 

Sorry as a FPH mod I can say that is not true. We weren't banned for the imgur situation it was just a coincidence. Reddit had already been making plans months before the incidence to ban FPH they even made rules to do so(safe space) because they knew FPH followed site wide rules to a tee.

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[–] PrinceTutu 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

Publicly obtained pics, on their very own imgur website.

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[–] McNastyFilth 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Imgur was created by a redditor for reddit. Even if VOAT is an "alternative" it's a direct competitor at this point. There's really no way around that and removing VOAT as much as possible from anything associated with reddit is a good idea. Who's to say imgur wont decide to start gating content? They already proved they'd censor content based on "community feedback".

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[–] root88 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

None of the decisions everyone is pissed about on Reddit have anything to do with Imgur.

Who's to say imgur wont decide to start gating content?

Who is to say that whoever you post an image with won't start gating content? You can't condemn a company for something they haven't even done.

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[–] Retro 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

imgur censors content they don't like; we don't like censorship here.

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[–] alabama-cake 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yep, exactly. The problem with slimgur, veuwer, etc. is that none of them are encrypted, and they can censor whatever they want there too. Up1 doesn't even support censorship though; it can't because of the encryption. It does seem really fast though

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[–] BabyPuncher 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Imgur doesn't do this. You just don't understand how imgur works. All images you upload are private and can only be viewed by people with the link you get when you upload it. You have the option of submitting that link to the imgur public gallery, which gives you a unique public gallery URL for that image. If the image reaches -10 votes, it gets removed from the public gallery and your public gallery link dies. However, your original private link is still perfectly valid. When you're sharing images outside of imgur (on reddit, voat, etc) you should use the private URL you were given when the picture was first uploaded. I readily welcome any proof that imgur actively deletes images that aren't explicitly illegal.

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[–] Heinrich_Himmler 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If it's something that imgur will censor then just post it on slimgur or veuwer. Otherwise imgur seems to be the most reliable host.

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[–] jawsgst 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

this may not be the site for you as Atko has already censored a few things and banned a few subverses. Seems that censorship is going to happen on the web, regardless.

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[–] color_ranger 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Personally I think that since imgur was created specifically for reddit, it's good for voat to have its own counterpart like veuwer, so that it can be fully separate from reddit.

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[–] hbr 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Plus, when stuff starts getting reposted from one site to the other, it will be easier to tell who is stealing content from whom.

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[–] Random_____User1 0 points 51 points (+51|-0) ago 

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[–] ack 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

There's also http://postox.com/.

Disclaimer: I didn't create this, some Voater did.

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[–] Fornax 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Or you could give my site a go: http://pixeldra.in/ This is not just for images, you can upload anything up to 100 MB per file.

I won't censor or monitor content, this is a promise :). I'm also working on an album feature, but this could take a few weeks, I'm going on vacation soon.

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[–] voltapizzle 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Let me know when there's a Chrome extension that adds "upload to veuwer" to the right-click context menu.

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[–] youreaturtle 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Exactly, I'm not switching to anything until it makes rehosting that simple.

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[–] flyawayhigh 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I started tracking veuwer on a nearly daily basis about 11 days ago here https://voat.co/v/MeanwhileOnReddit/comments/49713

Jun 24 Voat US 3388 Global 25171 Veuwer US 116086 Global 1004034

Jul 7 Voat US 1476 Global 12588 Veuwer US 40888 Global 377291

Moving up nicely!

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[–] hyzershot 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

i was just trying to give it a shot.. looks easy but it's not letting me upload any pictures..

is there a way to create a user account there? seems really bland.

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[–] Phivex 5 points 14 points (+19|-5) ago 

Well technically I'm asking people to stop and it is AskVoat.

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[–] Areostationary 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] MenachemSchmuel 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

You'd be asking people to stop if you'd formed your title as a question. As is, you're telling people to stop.

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[–] Prisoner072385 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

AskVoat Canon

Please check that your questions are questions and that the question is in the title.

 

That's some pretty clever word-spinning you've got there, regardless of the canon. I think that it's a reasonable point to make, even if it's difficult to find a Subverse that's both appropriate and highly visible.

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[–] Heinrich_Himmler 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

There's no question mark so it is not a question.

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[–] Charley 4 points 33 points (+37|-4) ago 

I just went to Slimgur: https://slimgur.com/

No thanks.

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[–] Phivex 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

Yeah I prefer using veuwer since it was created by a voat user, anyways.

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[–] vaelroth 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Trademark* not copyright.

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[–] Leopold 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I see two slim people...why no?

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[–] 5225225 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Why the hell does a FILE HOST (or image host) have to have anything?

Just have a damn "UPLOAD" button with a file selector. That's IT.

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[–] fancymug 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I'm not seeing what you're seeing that led to the instant "No" -- can you fill me in?

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[–] Charley 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I'm not using an image host that uses beefcakes as their landing page image.

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[–] AVX 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

'The Internet's Premier Shitlord Image Host' - from their homepage.

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[–] ScorchYRR 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Personally, it's the amount of fat content. a) I don't like seeing morbidly to super morbidly obese people naked, and b) I don't appreciate a group founded upon the bashing of said people.

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[–] Phivex 3 points 17 points (+20|-3) ago  (edited ago)

I've seen a recent surge of imgur posts on the front page. Even if it's not due to the recent spike in new accounts, it's a good practice to implement. Imgur is ran by similar people and promotes the same censorship. This is the main thing we're attempting to get away from.

Veuwer was created by @Icy-Defiance

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[–] coconuts 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Hypothetical question: What if come to Voat because I like the community and NOT because I hate reddit. Will you still frown upon my posts because I use imgur? Is that that how Voat community behaves?

I know emotions are running high right now, but let's be the free and open community that we want instead of just burning everything because of association.

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[–] RedPulse 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It's not about hating Reddit, it's about censorship. (Imgur handles the same kind of censoring as Reddit, Voat tries to escape.) I guess if you don't mind your content possibly being censored, Imgur is still fine..

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[–] RedSocks157 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Use whichever host you want, it's not like anyone can stop you. This is just a suggestion; hardly legally binding.

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[–] Komm 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

A program to mass transfer stuff from imgur to veuwer would be lovely though.

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[–] TheBestUser 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

@Icy-Defiance to create a link to them

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[–] Phivex 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thank you! I couldn't for the life of me remember how to link them. I wish that was info in the comment section.

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[–] amordedias 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Can you be more specific? What does that mean?

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[–] Johndoev2 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Imgur is by Reddit for Reddit, Veuwer is by Voat for Voat

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[–] thecreeper123455 5 points 9 points (+14|-5) ago 

I'll stick with imgur. Why? Guess what; Voat is a Reddit clone and there are posts about Reddit everywhere. Voat is affiliated with Reddit itself. Reddit uses Earth, guess we have to leave the planet. Reddit's in the universe, guess we have to find a different universe. The internet is affiliated with Reddit, it's one of the most popular websites. Guess we need to stop using the internet. While imgur was created by a reddit user, it actually has it's own (borderline shitty) community.

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[–] umpaloompa 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

The thing is imgur.com started banning pictures of FPH (hence it started the whole fattening debacle). So if you want a hosting site that won't interfere with voat, use veuwer which was amde by a voat user which share the views of free speech as the site itself.

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[–] Heinrich_Himmler 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

They only ban FPH images from their front page, if you link to the image directly it will still be there.

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[–] Letty_Whiterock 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Don't "upload" them when on imgur then. You can host whatever you want on your account.

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[–] Abandon_Ship 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Hmmmm.
I mean, I understand the whole censorship angle I guess. But, they are both just tools. And if I'm going to post a .gif or picture, and it's already an imgur link, and it's not something that would be taken down or "censored" I can't see why leaving it on Imgur would be a problem.

If I'm going to post something that may be censored, i'll gladly use Veuwer. I just don't see a reason to post EVERYTHING to Vuewer. Am I wrong?

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[–] 12_Years_A_Toucan 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

They didn't just start banning FPH published images. They started removing all kinds of published images not related to FPH at all. It all has to do with controlling the community just like reddit is doing. It started on reddit with default subs. Reddit sponsored subs.

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[–] arebokert 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Imgur is essentially owned by reddit.

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[–] caseif 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Well, this just seems petty.

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[–] SPiEkY 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

That's probably because it is

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[–] BrutalTruth 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Of course it is. That's why it feels so good.

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[–] Matt0753 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

Seriously. If you're worried about censorship, post your FPH and other related stuff to any of those alternatives. The majority of us just want to use the familiar and fast website for everything else. Banning a website or even downvoating people who use it is a form of censorship.

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