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[–] Naught405 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Olympus Tough series (300-500), I had one of the predecessors and they are great. It would take a couple of engineering primers to properly explain just how much better any camera will be than a smart phone.

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[–] bikergang_accountant 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

So what advantages would a non-phone camera have still? Better CCID? Better stabilization?

I honestly don't know but I'd love to hear a photographer's take on what's missing.

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[–] DeltaBravoTango 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

There are plenty, just not at phone scale.

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[–] 9801033? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Mechanical zoom is almost always better for sure. Even on thinner cameras. Few phones have it at all and the ones who do max at 2-4X. The "zoom" on most phones is just cropping the picture to an area and blowing it up, which is why it is so fuzzy.

If you need manual settings for light or focus then actual cameras are better also. Most phone manual settings (other than focus) just adjust the picture after capture.

Image Sensor is usually a ton better. More MP doesn't mean shit if they are not good MP. Larger sensors are better than smaller ones in almost all cases and phone ones are usually tiny compared to actual camera ones.

Phone cameras are great for the spur of the moment stuff and for giving you the ability to always have a camera around. Actual cameras are going to be better at everything else.

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[–] wesofx 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Advantages of something like a Nikon/Canon DSLR would be interchangable lenses and the ability to shoot "raw"

The interchangable lenses allow you to use lenses with long, short, or variable focal lengths (zoom). Some lenses have really big apatures too to allow you to shoot in lower light with faster shutterspeeds without a high ISO (High ISO = grainy)

Shooting in raw allows you to edit the colors and brightness of images more without losing color detail because the image formats usually have higher color depth than your typical jpeg.

Additionally, nice modern cameras have good sensors to allow you to shoot at higher ISOs with less graininess. Nice modern cameras also have very fast auto-focus and modern lenses have very nice stabilization.

A smaller compact camera can still give you the advantage of variable focal lengths and even "raw" shooting, but honestly, phones are pretty good if you don't mind the images being "technically" unimpressive. If you take care when you take pictures, phones can take good pictures.

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[–] ElectroGypsy 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

The point and shoot camera industry is in a nose dive because of smartphones. Theres graphs out there that shows a direct correlation, smartphone sales rise and point and shoots plummet.

There are still cameras worth buying though.

DSLRs and mirrorless if you actually want to take good pictures and willing to learn some photography. Bridge cameras of you just want to learn a little. All of these types would give better results than your cell phone if you just knew a little about photography.

Action cameras that are more rugged for when you don't want to risk your phone.

Personally I really enjoy buying old outdated digital cameras. You're forced to think about what you're taking a picture of when you're megapixel limited.

You definitely can get good photos with your cell. I think cells have definitely caught up or surpassed most point and shoots except for the higher end models with slick lens setups. In the end a cell is really what 90% of us need. But if you do get a better camera and learn a few things even your cell pictures will look better.

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[–] Cheesebooger ago 

I wonder if this will cause camera makers to enter into the cell phone making business?

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[–] The_Prophets_Profit 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I got this phone because I was mildly interested in photography at the time. It was a phase. I ended up having to get a new phone because any pictures I took of myself had too much detail. Like I could see the gaps in my skin where I had recently shaved and apparently I'm disgusting close up.

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[–] prairie 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Fuck that is high-resolution [warning: 13 MB image]

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[–] ThirdBurglar 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

My 4G was slow downloading this. RIP mobile data.

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[–] baneofretail 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/list/cameras/eos-m-series-digital-cameras

I like the cannon eos series for a pretty awesome camera, or you could but an older model for cheaper.

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[–] StillNewbie 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

My two favourites :

Sony RX100 IV or V

Fujifilm X-T20 with pankake lens

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[–] stayawayfrommybutt [S] ago 

Thank you for the suggestions. I am actually stuck between a few options, those included.

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[–] StillNewbie 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This fuji is really small compared to DSLRs and the quality is exceptional, and it will outperform Sony in most IQ aspects, especially in low light. Sony, on the other hand, is ridiculously small, IQ is in completely different league compared to smartphones. Also dont dismiss Sony RX100 video capabilies for such small size.

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[–] FriedChicken 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I can absolutely say that the Fujifilm X-Series of Cameras are exactly what you’re looking for. Fujifilm is second to none when it comes to skin-tone reproduction.

Look for a Fujifilm X100, X100s, or X10. If you’re lucky you will find a used model that fits your budget.

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[–] ExpertShitposter 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Cannon powershot series are considered by many to be the best and most professional fixed lens, non-slr crammers a.k.a. "compact".

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/list/cameras/point-and-shoot

There are a few ultra zoom models that are not compact so avoid those. The G7 is the best of the lot.

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