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All sociopaths are born evil, huh? Crazy. So they must be pretty easy to spot, right? They couldn't, I dunno, learn how to pass themselves off as normal, live normal lives, be productive, and not spend all their days murdering people or being corporate shitnozzles? They absolutely MUST be evil?
Maybe, not like anyone ever gave me a test. Or maybe I'm good at faking it. Or maybe I'm just looking at a broad and general statement and expecting the one who made it to defend their position.
Maybe you're the sociopath, planting a red herring to keep others from looking too closely at yourself.
As @keksmex mentions, found the sociopath. So are you?
Do you realize that people who are more "human" have an inate requirement for other people around them to be human. The fact that you are productive doesn't mean you aren't a major psychological risk to everyone around you just for existing. Most people would prefer those curtains not be opened.
Do you truly believe all sociopaths are incapable of posing as perfectly normal, likeable people? Do you truly believe even a slight majority of them are incapable of that?
Look at the most infamous serial killers (not mass shooters, not spree killers, serial killers). How many of them were declared as sociopaths or psychopaths, and how many of them were described by their friends, family, and neighbors as totally normal, even friendly, or pillars of their communities?
Why wouldn't a sociopath be just as capable as any normal person of deciding not to do evil?
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I don't think I was a little too harsh to label them like that. All of them are evil, and they are truly malicious people who derive pleasure from manipulating, abusing and using people. Because of this they don't deserve ANY sympathy or support.
Sure you're not thinking of a psychopath? Are you certain they can't choose not to bring harm unto others? If you own a gun, are you completely incapable of choosing not to use it to harm people? If you have an innate understanding of explosives, are you driven by some uncontrollable urge to blow people up?
I was always given to believe sociopaths don't have a sense of empathy and sympathy the way normal people do, but were capable of understanding their purpose. Wherease psychopaths were completely detached from their humanity with no inhibitions in regards to inflicting whatever damage they pleased on others, and no full concept of the consequences of their actions.
I worry you may be mistaking the two, as the garden variety sociopath is most often found in corporate board rooms and executive offices, or positions of government power. Certainly they have the capacity to inflict great harm on others, but they choose not to specifically because they understand the consequences of their actions.
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[–] Doomking_Grimlock 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
All sociopaths are born evil, huh? Crazy. So they must be pretty easy to spot, right? They couldn't, I dunno, learn how to pass themselves off as normal, live normal lives, be productive, and not spend all their days murdering people or being corporate shitnozzles? They absolutely MUST be evil?
[–] KeksMex 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
Found the sociopath.
[–] Doomking_Grimlock ago
Maybe, not like anyone ever gave me a test. Or maybe I'm good at faking it. Or maybe I'm just looking at a broad and general statement and expecting the one who made it to defend their position.
Maybe you're the sociopath, planting a red herring to keep others from looking too closely at yourself.
[–] bikergang_accountant 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
As @keksmex mentions, found the sociopath. So are you?
Do you realize that people who are more "human" have an inate requirement for other people around them to be human. The fact that you are productive doesn't mean you aren't a major psychological risk to everyone around you just for existing. Most people would prefer those curtains not be opened.
[–] Doomking_Grimlock ago
Do you truly believe all sociopaths are incapable of posing as perfectly normal, likeable people? Do you truly believe even a slight majority of them are incapable of that?
Look at the most infamous serial killers (not mass shooters, not spree killers, serial killers). How many of them were declared as sociopaths or psychopaths, and how many of them were described by their friends, family, and neighbors as totally normal, even friendly, or pillars of their communities?
Why wouldn't a sociopath be just as capable as any normal person of deciding not to do evil?
[–] 8Ball ago (edited ago)
I don't think I was a little too harsh to label them like that. All of them are evil, and they are truly malicious people who derive pleasure from manipulating, abusing and using people. Because of this they don't deserve ANY sympathy or support.
[–] Doomking_Grimlock ago
Sure you're not thinking of a psychopath? Are you certain they can't choose not to bring harm unto others? If you own a gun, are you completely incapable of choosing not to use it to harm people? If you have an innate understanding of explosives, are you driven by some uncontrollable urge to blow people up?
I was always given to believe sociopaths don't have a sense of empathy and sympathy the way normal people do, but were capable of understanding their purpose. Wherease psychopaths were completely detached from their humanity with no inhibitions in regards to inflicting whatever damage they pleased on others, and no full concept of the consequences of their actions.
I worry you may be mistaking the two, as the garden variety sociopath is most often found in corporate board rooms and executive offices, or positions of government power. Certainly they have the capacity to inflict great harm on others, but they choose not to specifically because they understand the consequences of their actions.