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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 9 points 44 points (+53|-9) ago  (edited ago)

I think the well has been poisoned such that it is impossible for whites to do the job alone and is very difficult for blacks because they'll be labelled as Uncle Toms and ignored.

Still, I think it can be done and the approach is actually fairly simple. We listen respectfully. Then respond and don't be embarrassed if we are acccused of being horrible people. They are used to winning by white liberals retreating. We need to stand our ground.

Second, we support blacks who are conservative and push our beliefs. They really need our support. A lot of them are totally deserving of support, too. If you are on Twitter (or Youtube) check out people like @AlfonZoRachel or @blackrepubprobz.

(I really think a lot of white supremacists are borderline retarded because they cannot seem to grasp that blacks can be smart and moral people. Their own data often supports it but they don't get it.)

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[–] the_spectre 2 points 27 points (+29|-2) ago  (edited ago)

I really think a lot of white supremacists are borderline retarded because they cannot seem to grasp that blacks can be smart and moral people. Their own data often supports it but they don't get it.

This is NAXALT (not all "X" are like that). The general trend is clear. Blacks have an average IQ around 85. The average black is quite stupid relative to the average white person. They also have an insanely high propensity for violence. Of course there are decent blacks, but that doesn't mean I should want them here.

Given the trend, I am completely justified in mistrusting them and wanting nothing to do with them. Their failures as a people are not my fault and I will not subsidize their continued existence as a parasitical opportunistic society-within-society.

At this point, I don't really give a damn about ideology. If there are conservative blacks, that's fine. They should try to push that in their own community because it will be good for them as a people. But I have no obligation to support or subsidize their attempts. I do not need them to represent me or my beliefs - I will do that myself. I do not need them as a shield for my ideas - I am not afraid of being called racist. And I do not have an obligation to protect or uplift them as a people -I have that obligation to my own people and my own people only.

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[–] idk 1 points 17 points (+18|-1) ago 

This is very well said.

I'm completely in favor of blacks raising themselves up, but it's time for them to be self-sufficient.

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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 7 points 5 points (+12|-7) ago  (edited ago)

So who is "your people" and who isn't? I have a feeling you will quickly start excluding people with whom you want want to associate and it will have more to do with ideology than geneology.

And it really doesn't matter if you want blacks here or not. They are here. You need to deal with the world as it exists, not as you wish it to be.

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[–] Cannibalguy [S] 2 points 8 points (+10|-2) ago 

Definitely insightful - it's a shame that people seem to have no issue going full Ad Hominem when it comes to this issue. I think the problem is most people see BLM as synonymous with "anti-racism" which is far from accurate, and by that logic anyone who opposes BLM is a racist. The Uncle Tom thing is something I havn't considered and is very sad: The fact that African Americans can be painted as "race traitors" simply because they disagree with senselessness within a movement which their people support. There's no better way to help out BLM than by keeping it in check. I'll follow those people on twitter, and btw great line at the end about white supremacists. This would be much easier to tackle if there weren't retards constantly proving BLM right by being legitimately racist.

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[–] William_Wallace 1 points 15 points (+16|-1) ago 

The truth is legitimately racist imo

Are some (few) black people OK? yeah maybe, but

Most blacks are not, therefore

Is it for better for the society I live if there were no black people here? Yes.

africa is proof enough that "most black people" will never be "OK"

But, blacks aren't going anywhere really, so , good on you to support the sane ones fwiw.

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[–] tylahedras 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I actually think the Uncle Tom thing is a much more important aspect then it seems, and these people need our support. Kids naturally look for mentors and generally money is seen as success. Therefore black kids flock to gangsters and rappers as ideals and it destroys them. It's important that successful black people be the ones looked up too, not the degenerates. So what can we do? Support the black community that wants to genuinely move forward and better themselves (Rare), and fight the cultural degeneracy of rappers and carpetbaggers. Be a role model and support those who would make the best role models for black kids. Never let Race be an excuse.

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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Yeah. It gets frustrating but remember this (from a totally different context):

"Around here, however, we don't look backwards for very long. We keep moving forward, opening new doors and doing new things, because we're curious...and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths." ~~ Walt Disney

Keep moving forward.

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[–] AristotleCLONE 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Your remarks here, epitomize fatuity. Your post is likely the most, nonsensical bullsiht, I've ever read on this website.

As a matter of fact, here you go, it's a bit of truth which should knock you off of racism's axis which you've rotate around since you were born:

More proof, that we racist-Caucasoids are solely responsible for negro's problems

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[–] SexMachine 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Read my comments and post history. I wouldn't call myself a "white supremacist" but I'm sure some people would attempt to attach that identity to me.

I know ~~Dr Martin Luther King Jr~~ Michael King(his real name), was not a good person, but what he said did have meaning.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."

...

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

These words are powerful, moving words. Words that I try to live by.

White people of European descent have created the culture and society that we all benefit from. Americans have one of the best standards of living in the entire world. This was all built by Western, white society. Others attempt to model their society off of ours. English is the international business language because our culture is dominant.

Black people need to realize that. This isn't a white supremacy thing, it's a Western civilization thing.

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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Have you read his Letter from Birmingham Jail? Even sinners can speak truth.

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[–] saris 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I think the well has been poisoned such that it is impossible for whites to do the job alone and is very difficult for blacks because they'll be labelled as Uncle Toms and ignored.

Or get framed for rape.

Bill Cosby - I know most of you remember that for 15+ years hes been very vocal about black people getting their shit together, and right when he so happened to start his new Cosby show supposedly focusing on more of that, he gets charged of rape and show dropped. It was ridiculously obvious that he was set up most likely to shut him up and cancel his show without the studios getting in trouble for being anti SJW.

This is what gets me though, Redditors, AND a lot of black people think he actually did it (some people on Voat do too) Despite him not being convicted and there being NO evidence of it Testimonies of people trying to remember something that happen 20 years ago dont count AT ALL. with no physical evidence.

I've come across TONS of people saying that "well all those women came out and said that he raped them, so it must be true" Despite the man being tried (not even possible).

This is what happens when Black people with power try to help the community. Black people without power, get ignored, beat up, and even shot(black trump supporters).

At this point, the best thing to happen would be to just cut wic and welfare, end illegal immigration (many immigrants go to poor areas, make liquor stores, gas stations, hair salons in black neighborhoods, and rarely hire other black people) pushing the jobs out.

Then there's the lack of fathers. From the drug war, AND from fucked up marriage and family court laws(this affects white people too). This combined with welfare pretty much assure that black people stay stuck in this death spiral.

Crazy thing is, something no one is REALLY talking about, is that all this is coming to a white neighboorhood near you. No one is talking about this, what happened to blacks was just a test run for whats coming for everyone else.

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[–] RebelJohnny 4 points 22 points (+26|-4) ago 

Step 1: ship back to Africa. Step 2: stop giving a fuck.

Problem solved!

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[–] ShowMeThePunny 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yeah, OP saying white people are responsible for teaching niggers to not think of white people as responsible for their problems.

OP literally a nigger.

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[–] Cannibalguy [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'm not saying we're responsible for it at all bud, I'm saying that the solution to this problem is to expose the ridiculous ideology for what it is. You're not obligated to enlighten them, I'm just volunteering to try an approach other than "fuck them they're all niggers that can die or gtfo"

I don't fit any definition of "nigger/nigger-lover", I'm just proposing a more sense-based approach to race relations.

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[–] malandric 6 points 0 points (+6|-6) ago 

Wow the edge on this guy

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[–] Tallest_Skil 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Kill yourself, retard. We're going to either deport them or kill them. There are no other options. There is nothing you can do to stop is. Either get on board or you'll be deported with them to be raped to death in Africa.

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[–] bagano1 7 points 20 points (+27|-7) ago 

Put your foot down, stick to the facts, stay away from white supremacist horseshit, stop overreacting to those viral videos where the person is harassed until they explode and start pelting racial insults, start taking video of blacks misbehaving and engaging in racism, upload it wherever possible until the media can't deny the truth anymore.

There is a serious problem. It's impossible to ignore. The media and academia are wrong and they are going to look like idiots over this issue someday. It's guaranteed. I'd just say, stay away from the white supremacist shit and the use of the n-word, stick to the facts, and it will make it harder for the MSM to discredit you. Some of you, however...can't be mature, and that's why you won't ever be taken seriously.

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[–] the_spectre 3 points 30 points (+33|-3) ago 

What the hell do you mean by "white supremacist horseshit?"

Do you mean the objective fact that the mean black IQ is 85?

Do you mean the objective fact that blacks commit around 70% of violent crime?

Do you mean the objective fact that 99% of interracial rape are BM-WF?

Do you mean the objective fact that blacks commit anti-white hate crimes regularly?

Do you mean the objective fact that there is not a single majority-black city or country that can be described as successful and reasonably free of corruption?

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[–] idk 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Or the objective fact that they receive the most from welfare and are on it longer than the average person?

Or that they have the highest rate of wedlock? Or highest rate of stds?

Etc etc.

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[–] Obergruppenkraken 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

I'd imagine he means stop calling for the day of the rope.

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[–] Rowerandvoater 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

The sad thing is though that the facts are seen as racist. Or the facts are thought to be caused by external factors (white people somehow). But either way, we need to discuss this with the people we know and the people in our communities and help them understand the facts and our point of view. At very best it will help make people suspicious of the BLM narrative.

Granted, I've lived in a fairly affluent area for my whole life, and I can't speak to everyones reactions. But influencing as many people as possible would at least be the first step to discrediting the BLM narrative.

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[–] bagano1 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

I have never been more disgusted with the people who live in well-off areas who don't know anything about African-Americans. The horseshit that comes from their mouths is unbearable because I know better. They would rather believe the MSM and Hollywood instead of listening to you. It's unreal.

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[–] KeksMex 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Nigger, Nigger,Nigger,Nigger,Nigger,Nigger,Nigger,Nigger,Nigger,Nigger,Nigger,Nigger

Colour me immature.

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[–] BeHereNow 5 points -2 points (+3|-5) ago 

Truer words were never printed on voat.

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[–] tanukihat 1 points 20 points (+21|-1) ago  (edited ago)

You can't. Literally, it's impossible to explain to black people that their problems are caused by themselves. It's like trying to explain to a 2-year-old that their toys are all over the floor because they put them there. The brain function doesn't exist yet.

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[–] malandric 5 points -2 points (+3|-5) ago 

Not true

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[–] hedidnothingwrong 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

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[–] KeksMex 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Bravo, well articulated argument.

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[–] moremane 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

Get rid of the Jews which tell them it's Whitey's fault.

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[–] BLOODandHONOUR 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

What you are asking essentially is to take a nigger (African savage) and make him use and understand logic. This will not happen. Because of their extremely low IQs they are left to be motivated by their purest instinctual drives: Eating, sex, and violence. They are absolutely selfish in every way and do not consider the life of another human. Think of the mind of a young baby- a toddler per say. The toddler does not care about sharing or about friendship yet- he only wants that toy now or that bottle now and he doesn't care what happens in 10 minutes or in 10 years. The only right answer is to declare that all Blacks regardless of their heritage and history will be given and guaranteed a plot of land back in Africa or even a place of land of the US governments choosing. Arrangements should be made that every single one of them will be uprooted and taken away from the integration with the whites.

The wrong focus is being asked here. We should be asking instead: "should we even have them here living among us?" Our laws were not even made for violent savages with such low IQs. If your counter to this argument is that there are smart blacks out there and not all are monkey niggers then I would agree that yes, some of them have higher IQs due to a small percentage of white genes over time through mixing. The correct answer still is to group them back with their people and to segregate them away from the country. The smarter niggers will hopefully become the leaders and make a difference or lead the people or they will be slaughtered for being different and acting white. Either way- it has nothing to do with whites anymore. Enough of the slaughter and the rape and the molesting and the disease. One behaved nigger is not worth one dead or raped white woman ever. Send them back and spit in the face of the Jew.

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[–] LisasDentalPlan 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Why the fuck are you making it 'our' responsibility to bring the blacks to reason? Their problems are their own. How about 'we' put energy into bettering ourselves and 'our' race and stop wasting time and energy trying to help people who don't want 'our' help.

I've seen some of your comments before and you smell like a rat.

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[–] SexMachine 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Jews brought them here, and they ain't shipping them back anytime soon, so we have to do something about it. Democrats have been enabling and subsidizing the worst behaviors from blacks for generations.

I'm no nigger lover or race traitor, but getting the blacks in America to pick up their own trash benefits us just as much as it will benefit them.

I'm a racial realist. Majority of black will never be as intelligent as the average white, but they can be respectable, contributing members of society. The whole nature vs nurture thing, I think it's a matter of both.

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[–] Cannibalguy [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's not our responsibility, I'm just volunteering to take a new, reasonable approach. Call it a waste of time if you want, accuse me of being a shill if you want, but the fact of the matter is that we're NEVER going to get rid of blacks, so maybe just maybe a new strategy is called for, one which focuses on black accountability and the idea that most of the problems facing blacks today are their own fault on an individual level, not the fault of white people. Yeah I'm sure a liberal shill would say that...

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[–] jokersmild 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

When you argue with BLM folks, stop being polite. Politeness is lost on them. Deliver your point with "because that is the way it is nigger."

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