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[–] individualin1984 8 points 14 points (+22|-8) ago 

No Jet Fuel.

But seriously, there is no way to seriously compare these two buildings with each other. No matter what you believe on the subject, this is not a good argument.

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[–] individualin1984 2 points 14 points (+16|-2) ago 

Let me preface this with the statement that I do not want to argue any particular side on this, because I see issues from both sides in the complete stories being told. That being said the whole steel beam discussion is not one of the issues with the discussion. Unless they were built with the same construction methods, you are comparing two different things. The flaw that caused the failure (according to the official description) was with how each floor attached to the outer structure. The relatively small amount of metal that held up the floors was much more sensitive to loss of rigidity at this connection point. If the apartment building did not have this same floor attachment mechanism then it is not a valid comparison. Now if you want to somehow fly a drone into the structure and show that there is zero warpage in every single steel beam in that entire structure, then you may have the start of an argument. Unfortunately we have several examples where fires under bridges have warped steel.

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[–] TAThatBoomerang 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

But seriously, there is no way to seriously compare these two buildings with each other. No matter what you believe on the subject, this is not a good argument.

Shut down conversation without talking about it. If you're confident that you know what you're talking about, you would be able to easily disprove whatever anybody has to say about the similarities of WTC and London building fire.

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[–] individualin1984 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Why does everyone want to argue this but not something more interesting to me ... All I am trying to say is watch blanket statements that make your arguments seem frivolous. Like I said elsewhere the most shocking thing in all of this is the lack of jewish casualties. This points better than an argument over metallurgy and steel framing techniques, that quickly glazes over people's eyes and can easily be shifted due to simple things like construction methods.

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[–] 160065002 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

yeah get that scared liberal who can't think for himself. fuckin sheep