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I don't believe in paternalism. The problem here is not that these communities have never been successful it is that we tampered with it. What we need to do is stop tampering. Let reality soak back into these communities. While I don't doubt the importance of this problem, this recognition of a problem does not make bound to try and solve it. Historically governmental solutions are almost always worse than the problem. As far as ushering in a new era of civilization, I have to disagree (stay with me here). You aren't talking about some new golden age but rather ushering in these communities back into America as a whole. Remove the systemic barriers and this should happen relatively on its own.
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Enslaving your own people for anything that a government arbitrarily decides should be illegal is still tampering with communities. If the cops aren't here to enslave you there is no point in running and people can work with them to make our country a better place.
Sure but we don't live in a dictatorship. While I don't like our federal government being as strong as it is, they are still liable to the people through the election process. The problem as I see it is these communities continue to vote for people that wish to further entrench this current form of government. You cannot force people to do what is best for themselves. There are plenty of examples across the country of economically depressed communities that have looked to new governmental philosophies and have found economic growth and improving standards of living. I can't make socialism work, no one can. Until these communities take responsibility for their conditions no governmental system is going to make their lives better. Some will just make their lives less bad. The reality is that cops are civil servants of the local governmental structure. They are hired by elected officials (indirectly) and are accountable most often to the office of the mayor. You only have to look at the Baltimore riots to see the failings of this argument. In a city with a Black mayor, police chief, and for the most part police force, the people felt that they were being systematically racially oppressed. How could this be? They were represented by their own communities. This wasn't an instance where an ethnically diverse city had own group oppressing another. The truth here is that no amount of policy can overcome reality. If there aren't jobs or opportunity where you live you need to either go somewhere else (which is basically the story of the USA) or implement systemic changes at a grass roots level to improve social outcomes.
While the federal government does sometimes arrest citizens it is most often for violent crime or immigration crime. The feds can only enforce federal law. This puts the overwhelming majority of police interactions outside their jurisdiction.
With that in mind while I support drug law reform (and have done so with my money), I do not consider it a moral imperative to save people from themselves. They are fully capable of making choices to benefit themselves.
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[–] JohnPaulJones ago
I don't believe in paternalism. The problem here is not that these communities have never been successful it is that we tampered with it. What we need to do is stop tampering. Let reality soak back into these communities. While I don't doubt the importance of this problem, this recognition of a problem does not make bound to try and solve it. Historically governmental solutions are almost always worse than the problem. As far as ushering in a new era of civilization, I have to disagree (stay with me here). You aren't talking about some new golden age but rather ushering in these communities back into America as a whole. Remove the systemic barriers and this should happen relatively on its own.
[–] SeanBox [S] ago
Enslaving your own people for anything that a government arbitrarily decides should be illegal is still tampering with communities. If the cops aren't here to enslave you there is no point in running and people can work with them to make our country a better place.
[–] JohnPaulJones ago
Sure but we don't live in a dictatorship. While I don't like our federal government being as strong as it is, they are still liable to the people through the election process. The problem as I see it is these communities continue to vote for people that wish to further entrench this current form of government. You cannot force people to do what is best for themselves. There are plenty of examples across the country of economically depressed communities that have looked to new governmental philosophies and have found economic growth and improving standards of living. I can't make socialism work, no one can. Until these communities take responsibility for their conditions no governmental system is going to make their lives better. Some will just make their lives less bad. The reality is that cops are civil servants of the local governmental structure. They are hired by elected officials (indirectly) and are accountable most often to the office of the mayor. You only have to look at the Baltimore riots to see the failings of this argument. In a city with a Black mayor, police chief, and for the most part police force, the people felt that they were being systematically racially oppressed. How could this be? They were represented by their own communities. This wasn't an instance where an ethnically diverse city had own group oppressing another. The truth here is that no amount of policy can overcome reality. If there aren't jobs or opportunity where you live you need to either go somewhere else (which is basically the story of the USA) or implement systemic changes at a grass roots level to improve social outcomes.
While the federal government does sometimes arrest citizens it is most often for violent crime or immigration crime. The feds can only enforce federal law. This puts the overwhelming majority of police interactions outside their jurisdiction.
With that in mind while I support drug law reform (and have done so with my money), I do not consider it a moral imperative to save people from themselves. They are fully capable of making choices to benefit themselves.