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[–] songofrebellion 1 points 17 points (+18|-1) ago 

This, and the users here seems a lot more friendly. You can actually have a dissenting opinion and agree to disagree or even have a great discussion. It's refreshing.

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[–] whats_reddit 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Reddit just seems like a giant inside joke between strangers.

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[–] 978-496-9FTW 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I disagree, on the premise that I can do so rather than a difference in viewpoint. Our identical opinions are totes mcgoats valid though!

Have a great day!

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[–] 547752? 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I second this. The narrative that only the trolls went to voat seems completely opposite of what I have experienced myself while being on this site.

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[–] xzedsdead [S] 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Thanks for your response! How did these censorships come to surface? Were people noticing their posts vanishing from Reddit? Is this why I'm noticing a lot of people on Voat posting screenshots of the front page on Reddit and the entertainment related posts? Ex. Cat pictures, memes, funny photos, etc?

Okay. Limitations is an interesting concept. Is this to promote participation with lurkers? It's a rather aggressive move but maybe it's to promote a community that thrives.

When you say "downhill", do you mean that in terms of the content posted, and the content being censored?

Again, thank you for your response. I'll be hanging around Voat for awhile, exploring and perhaps participating.

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[–] parrygrin 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

For me, the downhill is also in terms of the comments section. The level of discourse here is just so much more civil, well-informed, etc. etc. It's honestly a lot like reddit was five or six years ago, from what I can tell.

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[–] spexdi 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

...limit on how long you can go without posting, and limiting how much you can lurk without being part of the conversation.

As a typical lurker, this statement caught my attention. I was unable to find any details, would you be willing to inform me on what limitations, or where I could possibly read up on this rule better?

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[–] LegoMyEgo 1 points 19 points (+20|-1) ago 

Voat places a lot more value on discussion than posts. The voting restrictions are tied to your comment contribution points (CCP) so there is a value in having meaningful discussions rather than being the first person in a comment section to make a pun. Downvoting is not available until a user has reached 100 ccp. This is to encourage participation and prevent lurkers who don't add anything to the site from downvoting comments and posts they disagree with. A lot of people did not like this restriction, but if you stick around long enough I think you'll see that more and more people see the value in it.

Moderation logs in subverses are public so anyone can see which posts or comments have been deleted.

Moderators are limited to only 10 subverses. This is to prevent power mods from controlling popular subs and effectively bending the content to their will.

There are no shadowbans here.

While certain subs were recently removed because they could potentially threaten the future of the site as a whole, Voat was founded on the principle of free speech; that as long as it's not illegal in the host country, you can post it on voat. Of course people will test the limits and ultimately we will see the need to remove content as it pushes the legal bounds or threatens the future of voat.

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[–] xzedsdead [S] 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

Thank you for responding. Okay, so this is something I have noticed. A lot less entertainment related posts and a lot more, "hey, let's talk about this". Similar to what the other commenter was saying, it seems like Voat is a lot more focused on participation in discussions vs. reposts of shitty entertainment that make it to the front page. Buzzfeed-esque.

Okay, interesting. I'm excited to see how this site will grow and change over time. I'll be looking into the whole vote manipulation and censorship topics while I'm here. I'm just trying to get a feel for this place. However you guys are making this place a lot more enticing for myself.

Thank you again.

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[–] Phader 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

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[–] slampisko 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's a really weird upvoat.

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[–] ThizzBoss 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Uh just look at the current front page of r/all. Reddit has achieved its goal of becoming an endless stream of mindless entertainment. Vocal communities are no longer allowed to push issues into the mainstream unless that issue is approved by reddit leadership. The free discussion that was once allowed is now gone. You will not see posts on the front page in the future about activism if it reflects poorly on any corporate sponsors of reddit. You will not see posts questioning US foreign policy or questioning the military aggression of Israel. Negative comments in these threads will be downvoted so that the opinion is not seen by the majority of users and it's cast in a negative light.

They took away the downvote counter so you can't as easily see when you've been brigaded by SRS or their new downvote algorithm for censored ideas. The conversations have been limited so as to not detract from reddit's endgoal of being mindless entertainment that can shovel its braindead users viral marketing with ease.

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[–] shiterallylitler 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That comment just put two and two together for me and now I'm wondering why I didn't see this before.

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[–] Razor_Teverek 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

I've only been looking around voat for a couple of days and I'm already feeling a sense of a tighter knit community.

This is likely largely based on the size of the community.

I feel more comfortable posting/talking because I feel my opinion will not be drowned out.

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[–] Limpingdead 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I like voat mostly because its smaller. Look at AskReddit right now, 1533 comments, 3254 comments, 5340 comments, that is unbearable. Most of those people who commented were just throwing bytes down an abyss, they will never have the comments read or replied too. Here at 30 comments on many and less on some, you will likely at least get a comment point or a reply. I stopped posting on askreddit long before i migrated, it was just so pointless.

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[–] Kuosa 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

I was a lurker on Reddit only because nearly every comment was either met with hostility or ban warnings, because of my "bigoted dissent" which was in the form of "maybe let's not be dicks?" I grew up on the chans and am used to being called names and Voat platform allows this, but I am yet to be called a faggot here. Not feeling anxiety everytime the envelope icon turns red is so refreshing and encouraging to post.

inb4faggot

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[–] Arotaes_Forgehammer 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Bundle of twigs

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[–] Reow 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The trouble with Reddit...

But seriously, I think a lot of the people who are here enjoy the format of Reddit, they just want it overseen by a different group of people (those without such strong bias) and a fresh start without all of the circlejerking. As others have said, the smaller community size helps keep the discussions more mature and polite.

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[–] Dissident_Aggressor 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Nutty, nigh-spamming conspiracy posts that turn up in the wackiest of places, that's my favorite. Really, though, it's the smaller, more frontier community - makes for a more interesting place.

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