Archived How does matter exist? Everything in me says it's impossible.. yet here we are (AskVoat)
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Archived How does matter exist? Everything in me says it's impossible.. yet here we are (AskVoat)
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[–] 9053388? 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Elon Musk and many other very intelligent people think we are living in a simulation. We are not the substrate but software running on a substrate. Do a search on ancestor simulations.
[–] tanukihat 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I agree with him. With the way computers are advancing, in a hundred years or so we'll have computers powerful enough to simulate the whole world. There is no reason to assume humanity hasn't already done that. Sure it may be 2017 here in the simulation but who's to say it's not 2217 out there?
[–] TheKid22 [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Okay then where does the "base matter" of the "first" group of people who simulated our relality's matter come from? That still doesn't answer my question
[–] CrustyBeaver52 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I think the 3rd dimension is real enough - even if it is simulated (created) by say a higher dimension. I believe this dimension was created so we could experience existence in linear time and space - where you do not know the future - perhaps because time doesn't work like that in the higher dimensions - and perhaps that is boring, or there are certain things that are very hard to learn there, that are much more easily understood by experiencing life here. Maybe this is a vacation, or a school, or a prison, perhaps even a special kind of purgatory.
I believe we are not from here. We are visiting for a while, to experience lifetimes in three dimensional physical form. I also believe in reincarnation. Some of us have been here many times - but there is nothing to say your next life will be as an earthling.
When we die, we are supposed to go back... and most of us do.
So matter - it comes from energy - but where does the energy come from that fuels the universe? This, I believe, comes from the other dimension - some now call this zero point energy - background energy popping into our dimension at the sub atomic level.
If there was nothing here at the beginning - the energy must have come from somewhere.
[–] 9054007? 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
"If there was nothing here at the beginning - the energy must have come from somewhere."
Very good point
[–] TheKid22 [S] ago
Okay that still doesn't answer how that matter exists for us to be in that simulation, does it? See how this question drives me crazy? I've cried dozens of times over this
[–] 9053789? ago (edited ago)
We may sense that matter is real physical stuff but that is just our perception and experience of it. The universe is not as solid and fixed as we perceive, especially since the theory of relativity came out (space and time is relative, space bends, etc..)
Some physicists think math is "real" and that the universe is just a math operation. Other physicists claim the universe is just composed of information. So the "true" meaning of "matter" can become an argument over semantics.
[–] Alphalabs 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
It's beyond our comprehension
[–] xenoPsychologist ago
i blame aliens.
[–] TherealScrable ago
How? It exists because everything we do is the proof for it.
I don't get the question you are asking.
[–] Fotan ago
There has to be a permanent something from which all other things occur because of. That could be God, or a special type of energy, or a life force, but yeah I think there has to be something before matter.
[–] Buttsloth ago
I'm not saying this is the answer, but go watch Joe Rogan podcast episode with Lawrence Krauss. Net zero energy theory of the universe. Pretty interesting
[–] tanukihat ago
Why does everything in you tell you that matter is impossible
[–] TheKid22 [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
How does something come from nothing? Think about the question "what is a table?" Well a table is a a surface usually with four legs. Okay, let's take that further, it's a wooden surface with four wooden legs, okay let's go more where does the wood come from? It comes from trees, okay where do trees come from they grow, what do they grow from? Water and sunlight and nutrients in the soil, where do those come from? You then get to atoms, where do they come from, how does a substance appear one day? How can it come from nothing? What is "nothing"?
[–] tanukihat 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
I mean it sounds like you're asking if the Big Bang happened. If you ever find out the answer, some gentlemen in Sweden have an award for you.
[–] Crensch ago
If you're still around, I can possibly help explain more to you.
[–] Celestial_teapot ago
Lawrence Krauss wrote a book called something from nothing with what are likely the best answers we currently have on this topic.
The official answer is we aren't sure, but we are looking into it. And we should keep looking into it until we have the answers.
[–] BLUMP-SHARTCRACKER 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago
Jebus
[–] TheKid22 [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
That's what I love about this question. It extends past religion. How does God exist? How does something come from nothing
[–] CrustyBeaver52 ago
All right - picture total nothing - an infinity of nothing.
So there is no space, no time.
Then God pops into existence - all knowing, self aware - and there is still nothing - except God. God exists because in the infinity of possibility there is one possible reality where in the future there are beings that worship an all powerful, all knowing God that created the universe in which they live - and thinking about it makes it so - there is no time at the creation of God, the creation of God actually also being the beginning of time - so the fact that this reality only possibly exists in the future still allows for the creation of the God in the past, because he is needed to create the universe that has this future. God goes on and creates the universe - and it is all good:)
God, by definition, is not restricted by time.
If this is even remotely possible, then it is equally possible that /pol brought Kek into existence as well, thousands of years in the past - So Kek could be among us today. I especially like that part of the theory.