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[–] Morbo 0 points 61 points (+61|-0) ago 

Yeah Google has really turned into a total sponsored content cesspool over the years. Some topics result in at least two pages of paid ads and name brand sites selling shit. This especially sucks when you're looking for something that is named the same as a product or service but you have no interest in that product or service. Sure everybody says stop using them but it's not like you can escape the beast so easily. Many other search engines are just filtered versions of Google listings with their own paid content mixed in to give the illusion of choice. It isn't just Google fucking us like this. Other brands have scrubbed the web of all things of their past so only the current shit they are trying to sell you is available. Try to search for the glory days of MTv, you know back when they actually played music videos all day. You won't find shit except for a rare tidbit that they haven't scrubbed away with C&D letters and lawyers. They've been doing it since at least the late 90s. I'm sure other brands are just as aggressive. Think of all the music, videos, movies, books and products that will never see light of day again because of some company's incessant desire to control their image. Patents, copyright laws and plain old greed have ruined nostalgia and our childhoods (looking at you Disney). Fuck this shit.

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[–] Morbo 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

I have uBlock Origin, NoScript and Privacy Badger- Google search results will still show sponsored links because they are native and not true ads.

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[–] SparkS 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

in this moment thats what im using but im not satisfied by the manually blocking content option. its not working good. abp is over ublock at this chapter like np. besides that of what i noticed meanwhile is that ublock is blocking at its best 80% of what abp automaticly blocks out.

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[–] TheIrieOne 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Same here use startpage and Ublock ori but one thing that I never understood is startpage use results from google so isn't the same as using google through a proxy. I've thought about this but haven't looked into it, maybe someone can inform me. Might start using Bing or some other search engine.

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[–] AssaultMonkey 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Startpage is just google search with an anonymous filter layer. I don't know how search results are affected or filtered though. I use duckduckgo, have for a while, but would be open to trying new stuff too.

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I've tried quite hard sometimes to find historic news articles (historic in terms of...just 5-10 years old) and Google refuses. It gives me results from the last few days unless you basically search for the old article's title verbatim.

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[–] Morbo 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

So much fuckery in the search world today. I really miss Altavista where I could use all the search options to scour the index down to the stuff I was looking for. If I couldn't find it on AV back in the day (especially before 2000) then it just didn't exist on the internet. You can't be sure of that today with all this manipulation-for-dollars bullshit.

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[–] Animaillian 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

if you choose tools -> time you can select a custom range.

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[–] goatsshadow [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

you speak appropriately of my rage.... I commend you but wtf do we do?

edit: like do we all start buying microsoft and use bing? because than they'll do it.... there's no upload freedom anywhere anymore

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[–] vpoint 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

You need a decentralised encrypted sharing network. Done right it would increase the cost in computation&traffic for everyone participating but make tracing not practical. Basically the concepts of tor+torrenting+ encryption of the files themself so the hoster wouldn't even know what they host + redundancy in the network with wide adaption would be a solution to twart takedowns of information. The only real issue is any really robust system will be naturally also exploited for fucked up shit you don't want just like tor.

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[–] Morbo 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Sadly I think we all know the answer here: continue on as usual even though we know the problem is there. Boycotts don't work against Mega-Corps. Start a new search engine? Well you'll be forced to conform in order to survive and keep the lights on. This also does nothing to stop brands from scrubbing the net of their past so that will continue no matter what. Some choose to use some hipster search engine no one has heard of and pretend that they are making a change and are definitely not feeding the beast (even though they still are). There is no real choice anymore it seems so we just continue on the same way we are now that we have confirmation that we are constantly being spied on instead of it just being speculation. It may be too late to fix this without a major shock to the system, but that's not likely to happen either. It sucks man.

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[–] justthefactsmaam 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Bing is my go-to choice when I'm looking for porn! It goes way beyond the call of duty on that one subject.

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[–] clubberlang 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

There was a utoob video about this years ago about it limiting your search results based solely on it gathering info from you based on your interests instead of search results from the entire web

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[–] goatsshadow [S] 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

yeah it's changing it isn't you

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[–] AssaultMonkey 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Use another search engine. Duckduckgo or similar

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[–] littul_kitton 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Try these searches:

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=oxytocin+pair+bonding

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=oxytocin+pair+bonding

In you want to use vanilla Google search, learn how to use the "intext:" search modifier.

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[–] greyhat399321 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

They're becoming Hooli from Silicon Valley.

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[–] ObscureReference 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Me too. As a huge problem, not really, just find something better for whatever your needs are.

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[–] tribblepuncher 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This isn't new.

I've been examining this casually over the years, and it seemed that a lot of the changes - for the negative - occurred after they made "improvements" to the system, and also, as they encouraged natural language queries. In fact I think around... somewhere between 2008-2011 there was a turning point where something fundamental changed and the results just seemed different. It might be a different point for different people since different regions are picked to test out tweaks to the engine all the time, but it definitely happened. After that point, I think they got whatever they wanted out of it since announces of larger changes haven't happened at all but results have steadily gotten less useful. My personal assessment is that Google has been "improving" its core engine capabilities such that it is now a friendlier search engine, meaning that it responds more readily to natural language questions. The result is also that is a dumber search engine, and also probably more easily manipulated by Google.

This is compounded by the fact that they directly remove things like suspected copyright infringement links, "fake news," and probably things we are not even close to aware of, as well as manipulation for sponsored pages. But this is not just changes to their ad policies. These are fundamental changes to their algorithm, which better suit their agenda, whatever that might be.

My personal hope is that someone comes in and eats Google's lunch over this. It becomes increasingly possible and would serve them right. I don't think that many of the current alternative search engines are up to the task, however. Bing is pretty crappy for how much money Microsoft has to throw at it (it reminds me of second tier search engines from 1999-early 2000's). DuckDuckGo relies too much on Google and has serious privacy questionability. Searx might manage it. I don't know how much StartPage does, but if they're able to move away from their Google dependency they might have a shot.

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[–] Salbuchi_2019 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Google went public in 2004. I think that was the beginning of the end.

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[–] tribblepuncher 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Basically, yes. Long before the search engine started to rot, more and more "traditional business" aspects creeped into Google. That's probably where all this started (and the founders leaving, I think).

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[–] 8869289 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Yeah, it's crap now. I'm trying to ween myself completely off of Google as it's no longer a good search engine.

Reverse searching images is worthless now. I like to reverse search an image to find a higher quality version as there are tons of stretched or bad quality photos on the internet and I prefer to save the original version. No longer can do that, almost every image search gets me literally 0 results. I have more luck finding the better versions from the ''similar images'' than from the actual search.. despite the ''similar'' being the exact same image. Makes no fucking sense.

And some of my common searches for things, I've noticed that certain sites have been repeatedly getting pushed further and further back. Or that the root source of a particular thing, that was originally on the first page a month or two ago, is now on page 3 or 4, behind a bunch of random bullshit that is unrelated to the search.

Google is dead.

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[–] goatsshadow [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I know what you mean I've been doing this passive sorta hack on google for a while to get what I want but they've caught on to virtually everything... it's end all unless you mirc it and I lost touch with that side of the web since grade 10 when I became "cool" lol.... fml....

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[–] CrustyBeaver52 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Google has Digg-ified themselves and they don't even realize what they've done.

Internet downfall, when it comes, is often swift and irrevocable.

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[–] CrustyBeaver52 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Google's not about making money - it's about controlling the population.

The people who set up and back Google print their own money, and give it away by the pallet load. Google cannot go bankrupt.

These people do not want you to use an actual search engine - they want to feed you a controlled reality... one that they control.

It's a Potemkin Village - for modern times. Standard Soviet methodology. Create a Matrix.

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[–] goatsshadow [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

you could yell it but no one listens anymore

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[–] tamb 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Google gave better and often MORE results in 1999 than it does today. This world is going to hell in a shitbasket.

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