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[–] HarlandKornfeld14 5 points 37 points (+42|-5) ago  (edited ago)

Shareblue has realized that the Trump strike on Syria has created a massive rift in Trump supporters and they are shilling hard to exasperate it. Shareblue has new wind in their sails, expect the shilling to continue for at least a few days.

Don't bother having intelligent conservations with the shills, they are on the dole for shekels, they are sellouts undeserving of cordiality.

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[–] Thisismyvoatusername 3 points 5 points (+8|-3) ago 

It's more than that, though. Voat used to be a good place to come discuss things where everyone did not hue to the progressive party line. You might have been called a faggot, or a nigger, but not downvoted to oblivion. And for every post just being insulting there would be several that would engage in actual discussion whether people were in agreement or radical disagreement.

That has slowly been disappearing for weeks at least if not months. Disagreement is immediately met with attempts to silence someone through claims of being a shill or similar. Disagreements are also now an occasion for a bunch of downvotes, just like on reddit, which is why a lot,of us left there in the first place.

Voat was never going retain the same feel and culture it had when I joined a couple years ago, but it has really gotten a lot worse in just the past few weeks. I think it really started the week they tried to pass Ryancare and had to pull it.

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[–] HarlandKornfeld14 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago  (edited ago)

The shills have poisoned the well. Now I just insult shitlibs rather than try to redpill them, because chances are they are just shills and it's pointless to argue with shills.

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[–] Echo59 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

I joined not too long back, just to talk to the people at other side of the fence, as non American we don't get that part of the picture.

I was hoping for those meaningful or at least minimaly articulated debates or argumentations. But instead what I found is a ton of mindless hatred driven folks, that are either teens or haven't grown out of it.

I can literally count the good interactions with the fingers of a hand. Maybe it was better two years back as you say, but now for sure the level is pretty low.

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[–] cthulian_axioms 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Where in the fuck are all these shill jobs being advertised? Do they pay well? If the pay was good, I'd certainly take them up on their offer and see how much of their money I could take while subtly redpilling people.

Although, come to think of it, they probably don't fire people, more likely those who cross them get fed to David Brock. On second thought, I'll pass.

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[–] HarlandKornfeld14 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

From the stories are hear on 4Chan greentexts the jobs are pretty pathetic. Working in a cramped, stale air room with no privacy.

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[–] Mylon 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Imagine how much time you spend shitposting. Now imagine how much chaos a group of 20 people could cause if they devoted 8 hours to shitposting and had a strategy guide to achieve maximum exposure. They don't have to consume content so they don't take time to read. They just mass blast crap everywhere. An office with 20 people can get a lot done.

Of course those that know where to look for it can spot it, but we're not the intended targets of their shilling.

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream ago 

there's a lot of volunteer shills these days, the filthy sluts

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[–] 8726930? 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Most of the 'Trump supporters' online like him for his entertainment value and political incorrectness. His protectionist/isolationist policies are popular too.

That group of 'Trump supporters' doesn't in any way support a war in Syria.

Most people here aren't unquestioning Trump supporters, tbh. They know he's wrong about Syria, the internet, Goldman Sachs, pollution, etc. Syria's just the biggest one yet.

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[–] Knucklessg1 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

They put a price on their first amendment.

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[–] Codewow 1 point 18 points (+19|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I haven't noticed much difference in the 1.7 years of use i've put in. I'm still one of the few surviving democrats in this republican nest.

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[–] KinkRaven 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

We go through these waves, it does happen from time to time.

I've seen it get odd a couple of times before.

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[–] Mylon 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

If you identify as either of the two main parties you're part of the problem.

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[–] Codewow 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Well, that's kind of the problem. There really is no party that I like best or fits my ideals. Independent is where I sit officially, but I have a democratic outweighing over republican policies. And since everyone on here likes to claim democratic/republican. I have to be recognized as democrat.

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[–] Tea_I_Am 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I've been around that long, too. It's worse here. There ar the Donald tiype supproters who act like they own this space and we should get wih their program or leave. It's worse now than ever. They may drive me away anyway.

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[–] Codewow 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Eh. They're not intimidating. I welcome their point of view and will continue with my own even if they don't accept it.

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[–] KinkRaven 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Ya, I've noticed more le Reddit style content.

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[–] 8725901? 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

When many of us first arrived we all noted the maturity and civility in the discussions we had. We also at the time noted that, as more people from reddit flooded our way, this civility, maturity, and adherence to reason became lesser and lesser. However, in all that time, the civility etc remains, because we are still here and no one has censored us.

Whether there are shills afoot or just more people who have been too long removed from logic and reason, it does not truly matter. They will not -- cannot -- stand in the way of our civil discourse. We have the ability to move anywhere throughout this website to discuss what we please, how we please.

Don't pay fools any heed. If a man makes a point, listen and respond. If he whines or throws insults like a child, ignore him and move on.

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[–] 8727370? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Your comment reminded me of Stargate Universe. Where people escape danger into a mysterious, yet familiar alien ship, and the problems just keep coming.

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[–] GenghisSean 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

What wise advice PeaceSeeker. I made the mistake of feeding a troll in /v/aww today, but next time I'll remember to ignore the children. Thanks for the reminder. :)

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[–] 8726926? 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

It's almost more amusing when you cross trolls in /v/aww

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[–] DietCokehead1 4 points 6 points (+10|-4) ago 

Things just haven't been the same since @highly_paid_orgy_pro left voat...

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[–] IForgotMyPassword_ 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

Why did he leave?

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[–] DietCokehead1 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

I have no idea. He didn't even say goodbye. Someone noticed that he deleted his account and made a post about it. Sad!

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[–] 8726400? 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Some counters: Target their tactics, not individuals. Individual shills can be easily replaced, but tactics cannot.

Look for people who can have rational conversations and ideas that they can explain without derailing or responding only with insults and dishonest debate tactics. Don't trust organizations in general.

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[–] Gerplunckamo 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

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[–] GiantComet2016 [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Thanks! There are so many subs I can't keep track of them all lol

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[–] middle_path 4 points 3 points (+7|-4) ago 

I came here for new perspectives and a greater sense of understanding and intelligent reflection.

This place is a circle jerk, just like anywhere else. Not sure why you had such high expectations.

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[–] GiantComet2016 [S] 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I can have hope, damn it! Lol

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