[–] TrollMagnet 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Well for starters, ALL of this below is from a 1922 article.

The oceanographic observations have, however, been even more interesting. Ice conditions were exceptional. In fact, so little ice has never before been noted. The expedition all but established a record, sailing as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes in ice-free water. This is the farthest north ever reached with modern oceanographic apparatus.

The character of the waters of the great polar basin has heretofore been practically unknown. Dr. Hoel reports that he made a section of the Gulf Stream at 81 degrees north latitude and took soundings to a depth of 3100 meters. These show the Gulf Stream very warm, and it could be traced as a surface current till beyond the 81st parallel. The warmth of the waters makes it probable that the favorable ice conditions will continue for some time.

Later a section was taken of the Gulf Stream off Bear Island and off the Isfjord, as well as a cection of the cold current that comes down along the west coast of Spitzbergen off the south cape.

In connection with Dr. Hoel’s report, it is of interest to note the unusually warm summer in ArcticNorway and the observations of Capt. Martin Ingebrigtsen, who has sailed the eastern Arctic for 54 years past. He says that he first noted warmer conditions in 1918, that since that time it has steadily gotten warmer, and that to-day the Arctic of that region is not recognizable as the same region of 1868 to 1917.

Many old landmarks are so changed as to be unrecognizable. Where formerly great masses of ice were found, there are now often moraines, accumulations of earth and stones. At many points where glaciers formerly extended far into the sea they have entirely disappeared.


[–] TrollMagnet 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

NOAA PROOF they manipulated data ahead of Paris Climate Meeting


Also, Google the late 16th century freeze of Europe. Scientists have been using ice core data to measure how much solar radiation has hit earth going back tens of thousands of years. They find on average, the sun cycles about every 200 years give or take a hundred. Low sun spot activity corrolates directly with SEVERE winters all over. High activity matches periods of extreme warmth.

A good book was recently written on this. The evidence is largely peer reviewed to be confirmed, unlike much Climate Change Science. Also, the biggest things all climate dedicated scientists have in common are the millions upon millions of dollars the keep receiving when they prove climate change is happening. They dont get that if they dont work on Climate Change effects and trying to measure it.

Many of the most accurate models of climate cycles were recently combine to try and measure the "Human Effect" on the Climate. The worst case scenario using data going back since people first started collection it points to a MAXIMUM of 1/4 degree rise overall.

Also, Cali just got so much snow this year, that the 16ft poles used to measure how deep the glaciers are werent long enough to rech the bottom to get accurate measurements. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/03/02/western-snowpack-too-deep-scientists-measuring-devices/98623436/ First time that has ever happened. Just took place the Winter of 16/17 in the Sierra Nevada range. Scientists also just reported record growth in sea ice for single season gains. Right around the same time the sun is going into hibernation mode again.

I have been told my entire life O-Zone this, Global warming that, Sea level things, climate change here, there, everywhere. Looking at all the DATA for MYSELF instead of reading mindless propaganda CNN articles paints an entirely different picture. If people actually think man is more powerfull than the sun, they are truly arrogant. Even George Carlin who was one of the most popular Libs of all time said "Mother Earth will shake us off like a bad case of fleas". EARTH and the animals arent going anywhere, WE ARE eventually.

If scientists did not know this to be true, they would not have manipulated the data they had proving while CO2 recently went up, the temps stayed flat. ClimateGate I think they are calling it?

Polar bears aren't going anywhere either. Just ask the Alaskans who regularly have people EATEN by the fucking things. This is a pile of garbage with a bunch of political cunts trying to silence the half of scientists who dipute man-ade climate change NOT getting gov grants.

No one disputes the climate IS changing, but man causing it is NOT Solid science. That why Bill Nye looked like a complete fool on Tucker Carlson when asked to point to SCIENCE. His answer was basically, it is man-made! OK, what is the impact of hu,mans? Bill Nye, Well its man made, the debate is over! Fucking morons. No one reading the data released for themselves is buying this bullshit being peddled anymore. If man could change the climate that easily, CHINA would have killed us all decades ago. If Al Gore was only HALF right, we would have lost a shit ton of coast. Instead I vacation on the same island I have since I was a kid that I think is maybe 30ft at its highest point above sea level. All the old houses from the 1800's ON THE BEACH are still there too.

Stupid fucking hippies.