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[–] CaldwellMadison 2 points 32 points (+34|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Nope. Mandatory service gives the government a right to our lives. So does a draft, which we should eliminate. This is contrary to the founding principles. We are supposed to have the right to our own lives in this country, which ensures the government doesn't get into reckless, unpopular wars.

From the Declaration of Independence: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness

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[–] TakeTheCannoli 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Nope. Mandatory service gives the government a right to our lives. So does a draft, which we should eliminate.

Exactly.

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[–] dontforgetaboutevil 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Thank you! There are so few voices of reason here.

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[–] larkan 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This is contrary to the founding principles.

Give me a fucking break. Conscription was a central component of the successful founding of the US, and has existed throughout its history during every military conflict.

In colonial times, the Thirteen Colonies used a militia system for defense. Colonial militia laws—and after independence those of the United States and the various statesrequired able-bodied males to enroll in the militia, to undergo a minimum of military training, and to serve for limited periods of time in war or emergency. This earliest form of conscription involved selective drafts of militiamen for service in particular campaigns. Following this system in its essentials, the Continental Congress in 1778 recommended that the states draft men from their militias for one year's service in the Continental army; this first national conscription was irregularly applied and failed to fill the Continental ranks.

For long-term operations, conscription was occasionally used when volunteers or paid substitutes were insufficient to raise the needed manpower. During the American Revolutionary War, the states sometimes drafted men for militia duty or to fill state Continental Army units, but the central government did not have the authority to conscript except for purposes of naval impressment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States#Colonial_to_1862

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[–] Ayytriarchy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I agree. However, if you cant buy your way out of a draft then that would prevent pointless wars since g-men would have to risk sending their own sons into battle.

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[–] revfelix 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

No, but I believe everyone should have a few years of mandatory customer service.

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[–] Gringojones 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Bad, bad idea. Murder rates would go through the roof.

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[–] newoldwave 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You learn a lot about human nature that way.

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[–] CaldwellMadison 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Funny comment. I worked at a gas station for years and I'm now more sympathetic to those who work retail. They deal with a lot of crap! Disgruntled folks coming home from work, making routine stops sometimes treat retail workers as less than human. Now when a cashier asks me how I'm doing, I answer and ask how they are doing too. Some are surprised and thank me for asking.

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[–] pacman2000 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

I strongly oppose the idea of conscription and mandatory military service.

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[–] vandilx 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

In general, no. But perhaps for people who continue to subsist off of public assistance after a set time frame should be required to perform civil service work, like cleaning garbage along the road, etc.

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[–] dontforgetaboutevil 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Hell fucking.no! We are running an empire, making war and conquest for base economic reasons. The very last thing the oligarchs should be given is a bigger army. For fucks sake the imperial military budget is already ruinous they would have to double the taxes to finance mandatory military service. Idiotic idea!

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[–] rcglinsk 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

Not mandatory military service per se, but mandatory basic military training would probably do a lot of good for America's 18 year old men. Think physical fitness, mental toughness, conscientiousness.

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[–] 8090732? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

No.

Besides the obvious human rights issues, the U.S. military has no need for more forces. It already has a ridiculous amount of power.

I am a free prince and don't want to fight in some stupid politician's stupid war to acquire more oil for him or serve his geopolitical agenda. The Ira war was started on false pretences (WMDs), and so was the Vietnam war (Gulf of Tonkin).

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[–] Putzmiester 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Mandatory government service would be fine, not strictly military. Might be a good way to get people more active in government.

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