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[–] l23r 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

instead of giving it to those who are just too lazy to work.

Marx created (or at least popularized) the phrase Lumpenproleteriat. It's pretty much the people who lounge around on welfare watching Jerry Springer, not trying or wanting to work, and not using all that spare time to educate themselves or volunteer in the community... Socialists don't think that freeloaders should get shit. It's pretty clear in the saying "From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs"

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[–] bbylon ago  (edited ago)

Yes, of course there's many more forms of socialism that doesn't favour free-loaders. I was mostly comparing National socialism with the current state of Social Democracy in northern Europe which is very kind to these lazy people. You could live a very cosy life in Sweden as an immigrant without ever lifting a finger. In some cases they even lose money on getting a job, It's even beneficial not to learn the language because you get welfare checks for as long as you study.

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[–] l23r ago 

In Germany most immigrants get the language courses at 50% off because the government pays for half. I think that's a nice way to help people integrate, but then people like me are left out. I'm all "scheiss egal" to paying full price, but there are no spots left because the people paying half price - many of whom don't even want to be there - take up all the seats. I donno whether the schools have some deal with the government or what, but they don't seem to want to create more classes to accomodiate students who aren't getting the BAMF deal.