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[–] CapinBoredface 5 points 75 points (+80|-5) ago 

Want to be in peoples personal lives. Gay marriage, abortion... The right is terrible at separating church and state.

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[–] nosg 7 points 30 points (+37|-7) ago 

An extension of that, science. The right needs more science and less Jesus.

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[–] Mylon 0 points 31 points (+31|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I've become quite skeptical of science. I say this as a scientist. Getting studies done has become more about politics and funding than it is about finding the truth and many papers are difficult to replicate. Null results don't win any accolades and rarely get published. Science has become a shitshow and that's why it's so easy to dismiss it.

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[–] upsist 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

First, I do not think that "Jesus" has any place in the class room other than if referenced in a purely historical context i.e. "Jesus" is somehow tied to a historical event such as the Crusades.

That said, I am growing weary of some of the "Science" that seems to be more and more like religion. What is worse is we have been brainwashed to think that "Science is correct" and then teachers use their soapbox to preach about SJW topics using a science as a way to legitimize their efforts.

Science first and foremost needs to be taught with first priority to the hardest sciences: Math, Physics, Chemistry, etc. with secondary roles for Biology, Geology and maybe discussion of the limits of science as it pertains to Sociology, Climatology.

People seems to have completely forgotten what "the scientific method is". It requires a) testability and b) repeatability Without those two things it is not a hard science is is more of an educated guessing game. The entire idea behind science is to create sets of facts, which when repeated create the exact same result. This means anyone with the set of facts or "directions" can actually see for him or herself that the set of facts and result occur as expected. This is what leads to real progress as we turn this repeatability into things like computers which we can rely on to repeat the same thing.

Kids need to be taught the limits of "sciences" where results can never be tested because the system itself influences the tests (Sociology) or the time frames and scale is practically not testable (Climate).

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[–] riposte 9 points -1 points (+8|-9) ago 

smh

First off, science and Jesus do not conflict. Second, the right simply abuses the good name of Jesus for political power, throwing away everything he actually stands for. And that in name only, for they are puppets to the same people controlling the democrats, all voting along globalist lines.

Some very simple math that should be taught in elementary school: multiplying probabilities.

How many possible outcomes on a roll of a single six sided die? 6^1 or 6. The probability of one outcome? 1/6. How many outcomes on a roll of five, twenty-two sided die? 22^5, or 5,153,632. or ~ 5x10^6.

An average length protein is made up 250 amino acids of 22 types. What is the probability of putting a working average protein together with 22 types of amino acids. It's like rolling a 22 sided die 250 times in choosing each amino acid, so 22^250, or ~10^335 possible combinations, and 1/10^335 as the probability.

How big is this number? Well, the estimated number of atoms in the universe is only 10^82. Remember that 10^83 is 10x more than that, and 10^84 is 100x that. So 10^82/10^84 is actually 1/100. You simply subtract 84-82 and get 1/10^2.

So let's hypothetically get our universe to create a single average length protein. Let's say that every atom in the universe is now a super machine that creates a new 250 long chain of amino acids (of the 22 needed only, and not the 500 possible types!) a trillion times a second for infinity. How long would it take to produce the first average length protein to begin building life?

The answer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_timeline_from_Big_Bang_to_Heat_Death . All protons would decay and matter would cease to exist before this ideal universe could randomly produce even a basic building block of life.

The most basic form of 'life' required for 'evolution' to start would be a self replicating life form complete with dna instructions. And even the most ardent atheistic evolutionist scientists put the most basic dna information required at 10^1000.

Now what are the odds that thousands of proteins were made in a little puddle, organized themselves into sophisticated micro machinery, along with the DNA blueprints and the first life was born. The fact that it is still being taught in schools this day and age says volumes.

It is a different religion than christianity that is opposed to science and it's dogma that is actually hindering scientific progress.

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[–] TheKobold 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Or senator so and so is a drug user himself despite his push for the drug war.

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[–] gbiota1 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

The democratic support for the war on drugs is often under stated. This article has been very informative to me, particularly this source from the June 1970 edition of Ebony magazine. 'White America doesn't care enough about black lives to police black neighborhoods and get dope off of our streets' is the synopsis of what was written and told by the black Americans who were interviewed. It's so mind boggling to think that that story has been warped into "They disproportionately police our neighborhoods because they hate black people" over the past 50 years. The cultural marxist left will condemn every and any effort made by white people to help or change things for other people. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. The story has just changed so gradually hardly anyone is left to have noticed.

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[–] 7328491? 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Yep.

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[–] happy_snek 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

The right is terrible at separating church and state.

Anyone who glosses over the 1st amendment just to get to the 2nd amendment isn't a real American.

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[–] Xylophone [S] 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Please explain how that relates to religion? Freedom of religion is in the first amendment, but that means the government protects the right of the people to believe what they please, not the people imposing their views onto others

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[–] ginganinja 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

The big thing at the forefront of my mind is net neutrality, as Republican congress said they would start gutting them first thing, and yes, that's the word they used.

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What does that have to do with being in people's personal lives?

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[–] 7326980? 11 points 29 points (+40|-11) ago 

Authoritarinism. Want to expand government surveillance, military might, police state, decrease civil libertines, on the assumption that those in control will use these powers responsibly, not abusively and corruptly.

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[–] SmokeMonster 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Stasi. KGB. Present day European politicians, UK and DK battling on who can make the biggest and least secure databases on their populations.

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[–] Grifter42 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

What's the DK?

My brain can't think of it standing for anything but Dorth Korea. Which isn't a thing as far as i know.

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Not specifically a right problem though. Both sides are bad with this shit.

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[–] Goat-fister 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Remember who made the Patriot Act?

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[–] 7328098? 6 points 3 points (+9|-6) ago 

It's authoritarianism

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[–] trollghost15 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Both sides do this.

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[–] newoldwave 1 points 23 points (+24|-1) ago 

“Extremes to the right and to the left of any political dispute are always wrong.” ― Dwight D. Eisenhower

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[–] 93503847569 2 points 15 points (+17|-2) ago 

Assuming that the correct answer requires compromise is a logical fallacy.

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[–] Skary 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

Assuming that complex problems have a "correct answer" is a logical fallacy

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[–] ThirteenthZodiac 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I don't think it's so much compromise as that, the further you go on either side, the more crazy shit starts to get.

It's not compromise to say "you know, I don't think we need to have governmental wiretaps on all personal phones."

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[–] hatchrawerberyl 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

But it's a common assumption that allows a clever person to almost always get what he wants. Simply take an extreme position, then """compromise""" to what you actually want.

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[–] happy_snek 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Extremists don't compromise. Compromise is how anything gets done in government.

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[–] gregorypeckerwood 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Bullets are how anything gets done in government, otherwise it wouldn't be the government. There is no such thing as compromise without the threat of violence. Never forget how the United States government was born: a bunch of people getting stabbed to death in their beds on Christmas morning

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[–] gbiota1 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

If only there was some way to determine where 'extreme' began. People I know on the left, who have gotten just about everything they ever wanted politically in their lifetimes say today, "The left is so steady, its the right that has moved far into the extremes." When I consider myself to be a centrist and feel i have seen the exact opposite.

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[–] newoldwave 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If far left wing is considered normal, then even a centrist is seen as extreme right.

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[–] chrisman01 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

So... Jedi or Sith?

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[–] bisteot 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Why not grey?

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[–] SithEmpire 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Only one correct answer to that!

Through power, victory.

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[–] Reddiggoat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yes.

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[–] happy_snek 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I think this is more a reflection on human nature than anything else. Countless monarchs, autocrats, and premiers have done the same.

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[–] happy_snek 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Just socially conservative versions of neoliberals. They're all corporate welfarists at the end of the day.

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[–] Hey_Sunshine 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

Theres nothing conservative about these pricks

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[–] Kal 2 points 14 points (+16|-2) ago 

They never seem to understand that the free market is not a moral market, and ends with a single company owning everything down to the air you breathe.

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[–] happy_snek 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Both a completely regulated/centralized, and a completely unregulated market are both horrible ideas. Stable capitalism is a perpetual balancing act.

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[–] 7331045? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You're talking about an-caps, even the worst neocons support at least some regulations to safeguard against monopolies

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[–] TuxInATornado 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Trickel down on me economics.

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[–] happy_snek 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

"The market always provides a solution. Things that inhibit free markets are by definition EVIL!"

Right, which is why free trade agreements have helped us by robbing our country of its industrial jobs. Thankfully Trump has this one in his crosshairs. Capitalism is a massively useful technology, but chasing the an-cap dream version of it will lead to the end of nation-states as they all go bankrupt from being bled dry. Just look at the state of US debt today.

Regulating the markets to shit like the far-left wants to do is also not the right answer. Companies will just John Galt out of the country to some more appealing tax haven instead. The jobs will follow them.

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[–] neon_squirrel 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Capitalism is a massively useful technology, but chasing the an-cap dream version of it will lead to the end of nation-states as they all go bankrupt from being bled dry. Just look at the state of US debt today.

You seem to forget that the death of the nation-state is the idea in Ancapistan. Additionally, the state of national debt is because of the existence of the Fed, a debt based economy (fiat currency), and government market regulation.

@Broc_lia, did I miss anything?

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[–] CeepsNo 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Free trade agreements are in name only. You dont get to bash the free market by labeling a heavily regulated market as "free", tied to a politically corrupt system

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[–] Xylophone [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Is that a reference to Atlas Shrugged? I've tried reading it a few times before and have failed to go past half the book.

I've got to try reading it again soon

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[–] happy_snek 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It is, "Who is John Galt?" is a recurring meme within the story. I use it in this sense as a verb because of what the characters did in the story, they bailed on a civilization that was regulating them to death. The first half of the book is a pretty good intro to Objectivism and how going too far left with regulation destroys industry instead of improving anything.

Of course, the story didn't detail what happens if you go completely unregulated, and Rand never liked addressing that subject. Her philosophies are interesting but they have their flaws too.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Right, which is why free trade agreements have helped us by robbing our country of its industrial jobs.

First off, "free trade" treaties rarely have much to do with free trade.

Secondly, your country has lost it's industrial jobs because it had a period after WW2 with no competition and got horribly fat. If america wants those jobs back, it has to burn half it's regulations and strip away the union's special rights. No amount of protectionism will solve the problem if US labour is unaffordable.

Capitalism is a massively useful technology, but chasing the an-cap dream version of it will lead to the end of nation-states as they all go bankrupt from being bled dry. Just look at the state of US debt today.

If you think anarcho capitalism involves making a bigger government which spends more money then I don't think you know what you're talking about.

Regulating the markets to shit like the far-left wants to do is also not the right answer. Companies will just John Galt out of the country to some more appealing tax haven instead. The jobs will follow them.

Right, which is how the US lost those jobs to begin with.

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