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I'll tell you what I don't like about them, the amendments were to prevent government overreach but somehow we've been duped into believing that those rights are granted to us from the government when they inherent to begin with. Why is it that a felon cannot own a firearm after paying back their "debit to society" ? (never mind that a person has the inherent right to own and posses anything he so desires so long as he doesnt infringe on the rights of others?)
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Do you have a blog or sub or anything I can follow. I keep seeing your posts and they seem to be very inline with a lot of my own thoughts in government and rights.
lol just the comment section here on voat. maybe I'll hit up /u/smokratez and ask to co-host the podcast he's started. I don't see why we couldn't start doing our own investigative journalism deal here on voat. granted we'd prolly get trolled to hell, just a thought really
He knows damn well why felons aren't allowed to have guns.
Half the people on this site would lose their fucking minds if felons were allowed to have guns because as their favorite statistics will tell you many felons are black.
The 5th Amendment allows the government to take away freedoms. Even if you as a private citizen "repay your private debts" after years of delinquency your credit will still be fucked.
Felons cannot own firearms because they have been deprived of that liberty through due process and it is not a cruel or unusual punishment. The Fifth Amendment prohibits the government from depriving a person of life, liberty, or property without due process. The Eighth Amendment prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. Neither restricts punishment for crimes to time in jail or prison or says anything about "paying a debt to society."
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[–] Hey_Sunshine 0 points 21 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago
I'll tell you what I don't like about them, the amendments were to prevent government overreach but somehow we've been duped into believing that those rights are granted to us from the government when they inherent to begin with. Why is it that a felon cannot own a firearm after paying back their "debit to society" ? (never mind that a person has the inherent right to own and posses anything he so desires so long as he doesnt infringe on the rights of others?)
[–] TheKobold 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Do you have a blog or sub or anything I can follow. I keep seeing your posts and they seem to be very inline with a lot of my own thoughts in government and rights.
[–] Hey_Sunshine 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
lol just the comment section here on voat. maybe I'll hit up /u/smokratez and ask to co-host the podcast he's started. I don't see why we couldn't start doing our own investigative journalism deal here on voat. granted we'd prolly get trolled to hell, just a thought really
[–] Wahaha 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Careful, that's confirmation bias waiting to be made into an echo chamber.
[–] RedViiper 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
I think its risk of repeat offenders
[–] dabork 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
He knows damn well why felons aren't allowed to have guns. Half the people on this site would lose their fucking minds if felons were allowed to have guns because as their favorite statistics will tell you many felons are black.
[–] fecaliphate 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_Process_Clause
The 5th Amendment allows the government to take away freedoms. Even if you as a private citizen "repay your private debts" after years of delinquency your credit will still be fucked.
[–] 6848142? 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
Felons cannot own firearms because they have been deprived of that liberty through due process and it is not a cruel or unusual punishment. The Fifth Amendment prohibits the government from depriving a person of life, liberty, or property without due process. The Eighth Amendment prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. Neither restricts punishment for crimes to time in jail or prison or says anything about "paying a debt to society."
[–] Hey_Sunshine 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Then our Justice department is based upon punishment and not justice, to call it anything else is facetious.