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[–] Salicaz 3 points 104 points (+107|-3) ago  (edited ago)

I don't believe it didn't happen. I'm very, very concerned it's illegal to question it.

But being unable to question a part of history, because the governments have ruled it illegal, makes me think it's massively incorrect.

Edit: autocorrect

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[–] chicoski [S] 4 points 37 points (+41|-4) ago 

I agree with that. I think the situation is worse in Germany, where I have friends, and where they teach their kids to be guilty for the Holocaust in school from a young age. I don't agree with perpetuating a constant climate of national guilt for an event in the past, where barely anyone who is alive in the country today had a hand in carrying out, especially from the newer generations.

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[–] InyourfaceNancyGrace 1 points 17 points (+18|-1) ago 

I don't agree with perpetuating a constant climate of national guilt for an event in the past, where barely anyone who is alive in the country today had a hand in carrying out, especially from the newer generation

If the US is any example, they have a few more generations to go. Of course, Western Jews are integrated, well-behaved members of society who don't insist on handouts, murder each other constantly, and smash/pillage/burn down their section of town every time a criminal gets shot.

But I'm right there with you. I refuse to feel guilty about something I took no part in and had no influence on whatsoever. That's like feeling guilty that I was born in the US and not Ethiopia.

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[–] KosherHiveKicker 4 points 3 points (+7|-4) ago 

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[–] xeemee 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

I don't agree with perpetuating a constant climate of national guilt for an event in the past, [...]

what event?

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[–] antiliberalsociety 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

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[–] piratse 2 points 30 points (+32|-2) ago 

This basically. The facts we can't talk about. Like how Jewish professors have said the numbers are nowhere NEAR the reported. How it was labor camps with deaths, of course, but not mass murder camps with one purpose of murder. How allied troops caused a lot of deaths for cutting of supply lines to camps etc. Sure Hitler hated jews, but he wasn't dumb enough not to use prisoners for free labor during war time. It's absurd you can't even talk about it, as if getting the facts somehow makes you antisemitic.

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[–] xeemee 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

Sure Hitler hated jews, [...]

did he?

i'm not sure that was the case - after all, many thousands of 1/2 Jews served in the German military, some rising to very high ranks

and i actually can't remember at the moment, but i believe he had a Jewish lawyer and doctor and i think it was his sister that headed some sort of Jewish organization

what Hitler really hated had nothing to do with Jews - he hated the unethical, conniving, parasitic, communist garbage who infected Germany and nearly drove it out of existence, who happened to be largely Jews

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[–] xeemee 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

Like how Jewish professors have said the numbers are nowhere NEAR the reported.

most people don't keep up with the current facts unless it's a subject they're interested in - the "holocaust" is something i've been interested in for a very long time and for the last ~15 years i've been digging into it deeper and deeper and i can tell you this for a fact: NO ONE - not a single serious historian - continues to support the "6 million" figure which is (fact #2:) a Jewish-religious symbolic figure that is easily traced back to the late 1800's by anyone with a computer and an internet connection

so yes, you are absolutely on the right track

what is your opinion regarding 'homicidal gas chambers' if i may ask?

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[–] selpai 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

There are certain distortions of truth, contrived narratives, and outright lies, in regards to the Holocaust. When the History effectively consists of "Hitler was an evil dictator and wanted to kill all of the Jews", then it is all the more paramount that discussion and controversy not just be tolerated, but encouraged.

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[–] xeemee 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

When the History effectively consists of "Hitler was an evil dictator and wanted to kill all of the Jews", then it is all the more paramount that discussion and controversy not just be tolerated, but encouraged.

i agree, totally

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[–] xeemee 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

I don't believe it didn't happen.

"holocaust" is an umbrella term - no one denies the camps or the persecution, but the primary aspect of the holocaust is the alleged murder of [insert a number between 6 and 40 million] Jews, mostly in homicidal gas chambers by way of cyanide and carbon monoxide gas, is a complete fabrication

i know how that's going to sound to you, but i also know that you will come to the same conclusion should you decide to expand upon your historical education beyond what we've all been taught in government schools and by Hollywood