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[–] Torchhead 1 point 23 points (+24|-1) ago 

Opening a business will get you more money but is way more risky.

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[–] dontforgetaboutevil 3 points 5 points (+8|-3) ago 

This is worthless advice. If you don't have investors you can forget about opening a business. Most people don't have those kinds of connections.

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[–] flclimber 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

You can certainly open a business without investors, and you can easily make the connections if you put yourself out there and have a high enough demand in your market. If you need investors or connections, you just need to know where to look.

It's definitely more difficult without investors, but it is certainly possible.

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[–] 6288244? 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

#2 here. literally and figuratively

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[–] flarflar 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

A fuckn men!

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[–] MaFishTacosDaBombBro 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

Idk. I graduated 4 months ago with a degree in engineering but I still haven't gotten an interview or a job. If you can get a job, it's worth money. If you can't, then it isn't. The hard part is finding the job. Make sure when you're in school you have a game-plan for after you graduate. Without a game plan, you'll be a day late and a dollar short for making any money. Also, you need to do internships while in school. If you don't, then you'll really be a day late and a dollar short. Most engineering internships are paid as well. These are lessons I've learned after I've graduated, and it's sort of a shoulda/woulda/coulda situation for me now.

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[–] dontforgetaboutevil 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Have you considered moving to a location where industry of your engineering field is more common? Some job markets are just saturated and moving to another one can help.

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[–] InyourfaceNancyGrace 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I got a BS in biochemistry from a reputable university, and I did shit-pay lab work, then worked a factory job through a temp agency for about 6 months until I got my first job. Assuming your engineering degree isn't "gender engineering" or some bullshit, something will turn up. Hold down something that pays the bills, keep applying, and something will turn up.

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[–] Dumb_Comment_Bot 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Are they hiring? I'm in biochem and shit looks bleak once I graduate. All my friends are commiting suicide (not actually).

Edit: commuting suicide lol

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[–] 6288171? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You may have already considered this, but I've found that a big differentiator (besides gender, race, and age--but you can't make yourself a young black female, an instant hire) is whether or not your resume has a bunch of impressive personal projects on them. You should have a website with videos of all manner of engineering or programming projects. They don't have to be directly related either, they just have to set you apart from other candidates, and make an employer go "hm, there might be something unique here." You should also be able to link to open source projects you've created, or the engineering equivalent, such as PCBs you've fabricated or mechanical things you've designed in CAD software.

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[–] Philosopher_King ago 

What did you major in specifically?

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[–] MaFishTacosDaBombBro 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Chemical engineering.

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[–] 6287672? 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Assuming Hillary wins and our rush to outsource any and all jobs to India or whatever we can get cheap labor, and the expansion of H1-B and H2-B visa programs gut American citizens ability to get jobs on our own soil, and our own universities teaching STEM outsourcing their own IT and importing labor, I think a STEM degree is being castrated, however if you're one of the exceptionally gifted, none of this will matter and you can still make bank.

If you're not an exceptional person, you might do better in some blue collar trade that hasn't yet been overrun by illegal immigrants or whatever.

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[–] WmC16 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

It is not by happenstance that STEM has also been a big target of "include more wymyn" propaganda; not only from the Bolshevik left, but also from the Holy Job Creators.

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[–] dontforgetaboutevil 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I like how you capitalize both factions. I enjoyed that.

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[–] Anson 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

however if you're one of the exceptionally gifted, none of this will matter and you can still make bank.

Even so, the chance of you succeeding is reduced by fuddy duddy professors recommending students that fingered their asshole during office hours or companies hiring their friends and family - every company is doing this.

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[–] dontforgetaboutevil 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

Maybe it is time we as a people start to take this situation into hand. We can't make our government stop outsourcing. You think electing Trump will help and it might but I don't believe for a second the problems of the US worker are going away.

So maybe we should handle it ourselves. Maybe we need to identify these H1-b scabs and start to fuck with them. I wonder if we can sick the Klan on them.

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[–] Pwning4Ever 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

I cant think of any reason to go to university if you're not going for STEM or healthcare and maybe law.

If you go for any other field,you're basically paying 10s of thousands for adult babysitters.

Trump winning and destroying the h1b and replacing it with something better is very important for STEM people.

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[–] Lord-Stokeworth 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I would say suggesting law is outdated. Unless you go to a top 25 school is just isn't worth it anymore.

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[–] CaliforniaOrange ago 

STEM or healthcare and maybe law.

Law is outdated, tbh.

Going for accounting (the most profitable industry in America) is a very good idea.

Took me less than a month of looking after school to land a salaried position, and my employer pays for my medical and dental.

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[–] Pwning4Ever 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

and my employer pays for my medical and dental.

He takes out of your salary and pays for it lol

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[–] Crossing ago 

What about MBA?

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[–] donotreply 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

My STEM "degree' came from the college of hard knocks... I have my own business (IT), work my ass off, have a shithead for a boss (me) and LOVE my job.

Never dull, leave about every 3 months for a long weekend or a cruise with the wife. NO EMPLOYEES... I work all the time.... but I have NO employees so no crap from the "government" about who can do what, how much I have to pay, whatever...

Did I mention my boss was an asshole?

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[–] HeartAttack99 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

What kind of work do you do, and how is the net on it? If you don't mind answering?

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[–] donotreply ago  (edited ago)

I fix computers (boxes/laptops/chromebooks/whatever), Mac/Windows/Linux. Do networking, teach A+, N+ and S+. Work mostly with homeowners and some small businesses. Also do some webpages, teach one-on-one... I have a client base of about 300-500 depending so keeps me pretty busy.

Net is kinda funny being self-employed... I make more than my expenses and it's amazing what tax write-offs you have.

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[–] BowtieDog 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Electrical and computer science: good if you focus on the electronic side, programming is a risky focus.

Mechanical / aerospace: both very useful, job skills can't be outsourced and have lots of applications

Petroleum: theres one generation of petroleum engineers before the industry weakens significantly, so don't expect longevity. Shit ton of money now

Bio / chem: including the engr versions, these will get you pharmacudical jobs -> massive money bc of obamacare etc

Math: DON'T GET A MATH DEGREE. All proofs, mostly useless

Physics: you'll become a teacher or working in a dark matter getting paid to do cool innovative shit. Or astronomy

Tl; dr still useful, just be careful of jobs that can be roboticized or outsourced easily.

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[–] pitenius 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I have no idea why they include math in "STEM". I think it was more a "collection of topics idiots hate" than a set of employable (or needed) majors. Math without coding experience is unemployable.

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[–] AmaleksHairyAss 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

A real degree is the new high school diploma.

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[–] baneofretail 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

If you want to make real money, go into plumbing or electrician, those fields will always be in need, and pay a high hourly rate.

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