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[–] Memorexem 0 points 34 points (+34|-0) ago 

Of course you should be paranoid. Just cause you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. They were probably treating you that way upon leaving because they saw on the security cameras that you had looked though the forms. Doc was one of those nervous Nelly bitches, I heard 'white privilege', and probably freaked out the nurse.

I can say these are more likely for any terrorist activities, because when you get a disgruntled vet with mental illness who can't really make 'sound mind' plans you get McVeigh. But that's neither here nor there. What gets me is that this therapist told you that you aren't allowed to speak about YOUR therapy and the fact that they would get you to sign an NDA in the first place. Did you even? Cause that's, quite literally, fucking ludicrous.

Let's be serious, though. In the event of martial law being declared... It's gonna be tough to round up several million citizens. You're probably on a list to be watched out for in the event of, but probably not rounded up.

Anyway it goes, GTFO and don't go back. If possible, get in touch with the retired therapist you trust and ask them to recommend somebody for any future needs you might have. Otherwise, you're just gonna have to play the field. Don't accept any second rate crap like 'checking your privilege' from fifth rate wanna be freud frauds.

I hope you find somebody worth your time, man. Thanks for your service. I'm sorry you have to put up with this shit.

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[–] AutisticInTech [S] 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Apparently I did sign something to the effect of a NDA buried within my last consent to treatment form. I went and looked through it, and it says that I agree to not divulge details regarding my treatment with any third party, and that I understand doing so will make me liable for damages (real or perceived) by this public mental health services department. It reads crazy as fuck. I don't think it would stand up in court for a second, as my state's patient's right bill says I alone retain all rights for releasing any of my medical history records. But still it was fucking crazy how the therapist even mentioned it. It made me wonder if it was just in there as a way to try and have some legal leverage for involuntary commitment.

I am waiting on trying another therapist now, as I'm trying to get an actual psychologist again. After seeing my psychiatrist (whom I trust most of all my doctors) to go over the results of some annual MRIs, I was put in contact with several psychologist they know have solid experience in developing treatment plans for PTSD. So I am hoping that this will just be a bump in the road and I'll be making progress again soon.

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[–] AndinBriwel 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yes. That one was all wrong, and all those facts listed were blatantly obvious to everyone when it happened. I was listening to talk radio when it happened, and very shortly after the incident, then-President Bill Clinton gave a speech. The glaring point that stood out was that, even though nobody had been apprehended and no groups had claimed credit, Clinton's speech contained a phrase about cracking down on "hate speech." Before that day, "hate speech" was not a common phrase, and this current popular assumption that "hate speech" is something not protected under the first amendment didn't exist. That comment really exposed an agenda and made me instantly think the event was staged. Later when I saw the pictures of the building with only a crescent shape precicely cut away from the front part of the building it was obvious that such damage was impossible to create with a device outside the buulding. Concrete beams and rebar were precision cut perfectly plumb from each floor plumb in line with the floor above and below. That was the day "hate speech" was effectively declared unconstitutional, making opinion illegal wihout legislation, and today the majority of the population believe that it's true and just to prosecute "hate speech."

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[–] Memorexem 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Shhhh.

/v/conspiracy

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[–] 0x4F 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

https://voat.co/v/news/comments/1183014

Told ya so... it's happening. That sounds really shady as to why you should have to sign an NDA and not the therapist. But oh, that's right, the "mentally ill" are an acceptable target for monitoring because of their "paranoid anti-government views" and "white privilege".

Don't ever go back there. Seriously. Find a way to cope on your own, whether it's yoga, meditation, walks through nature, taking up a hobby, whatever. It's not worth the shame of being branded an enemy and lectured to about "white privilege" shit that has fuck-all to do with what you experienced there. Don't smoke weed either even though it's been said to help with PTSD, because it's still illegal at the federal level and you don't know what kind of shit the feds/cops will zero in on now that they've got your number.

Too bad you didn't manage to steal one of those questionnaire forms and upload it to Cryptome or Wikileaks. But don't go back and try to do it. Just get as far away from "professionals" as you possibly can.

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[–] fuck_communism 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

You want a psychologist or a psychiatrist - someone with "Doctor" before their name. Most "therapists" are pinhead MAs who shouldn't be counseling anyone. The DHS paperwork was most likely for some grant the therapist or therapy business is receiving to study vets with PTSD. I don't believe they can disclose specific information about your case without your permission, but you probably signed a permission slip in the pile of papers they threw at you. Ask them for a copy of your medical records - they have to give it to you - and be sure to reference the DHS survey. The NDA is bullshit, they can't prevent you from discussing your case with whoever you want. Ask for a copy of it when you ask for your medical records, then take the whole pile to a malpractice attorney. It will probably cost a few hundred dollars, but you'll know if they fucked you're being paranoid or not. Well worth it in my book. You may be able to find a legal aid attorney specializing in veterans issues, but someone specializing in medical cases would probably be better.

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[–] 5875543? 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Best advice in the thread

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[–] Goatinsheepsclothing 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I wonder if this has anything to do with them exempting mental health patients from HIPAA and the fourth amendment.

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[–] 0x4F 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

https://voat.co/v/news/comments/1183014

It sounds like you're being sarcastic about my post but see there you go, it's happening, and anyone who isn't paranoid at this point is crazy. All this will do is dissuade people from seeking help because they know they're going to be scrutinized.

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[–] Goatinsheepsclothing 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I wasn't being sarcastic, trust me i know they're doing this stuff. The government gets a list of people who are more susceptible to being influenced by them and who might be a threat.

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[–] Gake_The_Cake 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

and was on trying to get me to acknowledge and focus on addressing my 'white privilege' (their words) I left really discouraged and confused.

What the fuck?! Sue them. Sue the ever living shit out of them for this shit alone. Sue them for discrimination. This is illegal.

door how my sessions are covered by an NDA, and I can face prison time for discussing my treatment.

WTF this sounds illegal as fuck. Sounds like some shady shit.

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[–] mamwad 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Assuming what you are saying is true (a big ask tbh), you aren't paranoid. You're reasonably anxious.

If the feds are targeting you, they are probably going to try to entrap you into some kind of domestic terror scheme. So, put any ideas of nonpeaceful political action out of your head now. If someone tries to buddy up to you and they start talking about taking action against the government, they're a fed. Cut them out of your life.

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[–] 5871583? 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

The best thing someone like you can do is teach others what you know-- about this, and about strategic, tactical, and practical thinking. That way if things do hit the fan and you are detained, there'll be X amount of people who know about it and who have the knowledge to get you out.

The best thing you can do for the government is put yourself in a position where they get to kill you. It doesn't matter to them how many people you kill in an attempt to defend yourself-- in fact, the more, the better, since it only justifies their use of lethal force against you.

Lie low, keep your nose clean, teach others.

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[–] pitenius 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This, this, this. The story has no legs without the docs. I get that OP wasn't up to Sandy Berger-ing the docs, but this story is important. If it's true, someone -- SOMEONE -- either a psych or another patient, or office staff or DHS mole will pony up the dox.

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