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[–] pacman2000 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You should be free to worship however you please in my opinion. I do believe there should be no special exceptions made for the sake of religious belief. If someone is allowed to do something because of religion anyone should be allowed to do it even if they aren't the same religion and do not have any belief that would require them to have the exception. This includes taking holidays off, wearing clothing or refusing to perform tasks forbidden. If an atheist can't have a special exception for it, then a religious person shouldn't be able to, either. I do believe religions should pay taxes, but in exchange for paying taxes religions should be allowed to advocate for politicians and political policies without interference from the state.

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[–] 5164518? 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I do believe religions should pay taxes, but in exchange for paying taxes religions should be allowed to advocate for politicians and political policies without interference from the state.

That is a fair trade-off that avoids the issue of "the government isn't taxing X church, and they're supporting Y candidate, so therefore the government supports Y candidate", although I doubt that the churches that already endorse candidates would give up their tax haven just to legally keep doing what they've always done.

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[–] sakuramboo 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

Like every other freedoms, I support them until your freedoms affect others.

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[–] ThisUserIsHuman 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Religious freedom, a good thing. Religious tyranny, a bad thing.

The way to tell the difference? Whether or not your beliefs deny others their rights.

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[–] Slayfire122 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

Which kind of brings us to the gay marriage debate. Marriage is a religious ceremony and the government can go fuck off. I wish the government never got involved with marriage. I believe the state should have Civil Unions if anything and leave Marriage to the churches.

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[–] Owlchemy 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

I'm for it ... it's a free country, I could care less what others believe ... just don't continually attempt to shove it down my throat. If I'm interested ... be it a specific religion or atheism, I'll seek you out ... I don't need your help in finding the 'truth', when absolutely no one knows, period.

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[–] 5164116? 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Religious Freedom is often used as a smokescreen for Religious Favoritism. I don't think religions should be tax exempt or have any special perks. People can believe whatever they want, and should not be restricted in their beliefs, whether it be that 9/11 was an inside job, or space aliens built the pyramids, or a guy turned water into wine. "Safe Spaces" is something that religion has enjoyed for far too long.

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[–] 5164826? 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

This is how the West is shooting itself in the foot. You declare religion sacred, then you get invaded by religious extremists and are unwilling to do anything about it because you're propped up by your own religious extremists. Religion is a scam. I wouldn't outlaw it by any means, but to give it special protection, special tax incentives, and treat it like "oh it's religion it must be good" is counter-productive. I don't care if someone wants to pray to the noodly whatever or an old man in the sky or a giant elephant, but damn if I'm going to pay taxes and they don't have to, just because they promote fairy tales.

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[–] EarlPoncho 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I don't think religions should be tax exempt or have any special perks

then you also believe that separation of church and state is stupid

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[–] 5165938? 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

On the contrary - I think the separation should be greater than it is. Church has an unhealthy closeness to State.

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[–] wahala 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

Total religious freedom under the banner of 'Don't ask, don't tell'. I don't want to know your religion, and I don't want you to know mine. If we keep it to that, we can all celebrate our religious freedom without imposing ourselves on others.

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[–] fagnig 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

"Why wont you bake these gays a wedding cake?"

"Because, because well..."

"Go on..."

"Well because its a, its wrong..."

"Why?"

"Because the, the... i..."

If people couldnt use religion as a handy justification toolkit, it would be a lot harder for them to say what they mean.

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[–] TiagoTiago 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It would be harder to hide what they mean, actually. If you can't use "my imaginary friend said so" as an excuse you're forced to admit how you really feel about these matters.

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[–] pacman2000 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Definitely. There are also organizations that claim to be a part of more mainstream or accepted religions that are pretty much just scams and criminal organizations, too. It would be nice if there was a way to hold people who use religion as a shield accountable.

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[–] arrggg 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

People should be free to believe in any invisible wizard in the sky they want. However, once they cross certain lines they should be renamed a cult and stripped of their rights and jailed. These things are:

  • Tolerating criminal behavior because the invisible wizard said its ok.
  • Forced labor or indentured service to stay in invisible wizard groups good graces.
  • Treatment of some people as less than others because their invisible wizard said so.
  • Attacking people who disregard their invisible wizards laws.
  • Attacking people who don't believe in their invisible wizards.
  • Attacking people who believe in different invisible wizards.

Once they get caught doing that shit, they are cultists and should be imprisoned and\or deported.

So sayeth the invisible wizard in the sky!

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[–] mamwad 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

As long as you aren't breaking a law that has a legitimate secular purpose, believe what you want. Suppressing views does not change views.

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