0
4

[–] The_Ugliest_Man_Ever 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Source: An Independent who has voted for Reps and Dems alike, even a Libertarian once.

From where I sit, yes.

Here's why: It's happened once before. Let's not forget that a young Barack Obama was once a socialist muslim whose ideas were too extreme left and whose campaign was too small to have any hope against the mighty Clinton machine.

Whereas Team Red is all about going back to the way things were, the Blue Team prides itself on ushering in change and "progress". They have shown that they will take an idealist over a realist. More importantly, they will take an idealist over that realist.

Sanders fits within the liberal wishlist, and does so with the authenticity that ranks so high on everyone's wishlist, which is why working class whites (a pretty republican demographic) are suddenly paying attention to this "socialist". No matter what she says or how she says it, no one ever feels like they've gotten the full story from Hillary. It always comes out way after the fact when there's no risk of damage to her. Bernie is upfront and brutally honest. He's not shying away from hammering billionaires, something no other candidate is going to even consider.

Young people especially are more likely to listen to him. They came of age during the great recession. They heard the cries of "Socialism is going to destroy this country" under Obama and saw that he actually is about to leave the country in pretty good shape, certainly better than his predecessor. For them, "Socialist" isn't the horrific buzzword it's intended to be when Fox News pundits say it the same way you'd call someone a goat rapist.

Minorities are going to be where he has the biggest uphill battle, but with each passing day, the media is beginning to cover him and his ideas are resonating, much in the same way Obama's did when he went up against Hillary and outflanked her on the left. His "liberal" ideas are actually well in line with the majority of average Americans on most issues, but no one knows who he is, much less what he stands for.

The real question is just whether his lack of money will keep him from getting his message out. Obama wasn't shy about licking some billionaire boot to add to the war chest. Even if Bernie could find a billionaire willing to give him the time of day, asking him for money would be a betrayal of everything he's worked for. But his positions on the issues are better suited to the democrats. Whether they will they ever find that out is what he needs to answer.

I've seen a lot of them come and go. I voted for John McCain and Gary Johnson the last two elections knowing full well they were going to lose. But if Bernie manages to win both Iowa and New Hampshire, (and he's on track to do so) people will look into him and find they actually for the most part agree with him.

On my board, Bernie Sanders is the current favorite to win the White House, Hillary is a very close second, and Rubio is a distant third. Hope that helps!

0
0

[–] shutupdonny [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I worry that "socialist" is too much of a buzzword for the older Democrats, and certainly most Republicans though. We'll see!

1
2

[–] TexasComments 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Not really unless he can get some Super PAC money behind him or the voting paradigm changes and the under 30 vote comes out in the 80%+ range. That being said if he does get the nomination there will be a Republican President all the way down to dog catcher.

If you want me to flesh this out I can but typically the Bernie Sander Bro-gade storms in when I give a legitimate opinion.

0
1

[–] leadfoot323 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Agreed. As a Conservative, I actually hope he beats Hillary. It wouldn't be too difficult to run against a self-proclaimed socialist with 24 years of voting records behind him.

0
0

[–] shutupdonny [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I worry about that ultimate outcome... but as a liberal, I might be more likely to vote Republican over Hillary anyway depending on the candidate, so first step in my book is beating her in the primaries so it doesn't come to that.

1
0

[–] TexasComments 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Hell Trump would win all 49 states if that happened.

0
0

[–] shutupdonny [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If you have more to flesh out, I'd love to hear it. As much as I hope you're wrong, I have a feeling you're right, but I don't know enough about elections/wtf Americans want to put my finger on why. Do you really think it's impossible for Sanders to convince over-30s Dems to vote for him? Would that be bc of lack of $ or just his message not being sell-able to them? Thanks so much!

0
0

[–] Zodi 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

OP, please don't listen to TexasComments. He doesn't know what he's talking about. I've talked to him before about Bernie.

1
0

[–] TexasComments 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Over 30 Americans were born in the eighties, they still remember the cold war and socialism and communism; they may have had an older brother die in Vietnam fighting communists over there and they are generally more politically conservative as they age to say nothing of that generation's introduction to communism. Dems over forty and outside the liberal tumors of Vermont, Portland, Seattle, and Berkeley will never consider Sanders either for fear of wasting their vote or for fear of his socialism more than likely - older people have more money and they earned it.

The Republican version of Sanders is Trump and they agree on a lot of points including getting money out of politics, but your hate for Trump is my hate of Sanders. I would love for him to get the nomination because that would drive Republican voter turnout to an all time high, maybe even 90%, and it would be reactionary voting for Trump, Cruz, or Perry. Conservative Democrats would jump ship too.

1
-1

[–] Zodi 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

I disagree entirely, but that's because I've been paying attention.

0
1

[–] kurtznnj 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Primaries favor candidates that are more on the fringe (on both sides, look at how Santorum held on against Romney in the 2012 primaries). Young adults also vote at much lower rates than senior citizens which may be overstating Sanders poll results right now.