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[–] Plague1 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

I'm still kinda amazed that a couple hundred people died after the cops went on strike in one of the states in Brazil earlier this year and how no one is talking about that.

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[–] ShitArchon [S] 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

That's the thing. The aforementioned violent crimes are far more common where the Brazilian anon lives than where the Japanese anon lives. Keeping that in mind provides vital context.

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[–] Plague1 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

That's true. Well, in the homogenized country it makes sense why the Japanese anon wouldn't stand for violence happening to a fellow Japanese citizen. The Brazilian wouldn't know at a glance necessarily which one is the tourist and which one is the patriot whereas the Japanese man would know right away. And thus the Japanese man would know that helping out his neighbor is helping out himself and feels compelled to do so. The Brazilian could easily accidentally help the wrong one and screw himself over, so prefers to keep his head down. Fascinating case study here.

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[–] Gorillion 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

But the OP there is just ham-handedly saying the same thing. He perceives modern women as not being part of "his group" anymore. They are not his social "fellows". He didn't mean that helping her out = "gimme sex, bitch". He means that being brave and virtuous, or whatever classic male traits or role expectations have been imbued in him, earns him no social credit. Social credit that may eventuate in greater personal and associated-group standing in his culture and, as with everything else under the sun, greater mating opportunities.

If you feel you're not getting rewarded in some way for your services, you cease offering them. Or reduce the quality and availability of your services. All creatures need to see a good cost/benefit tally at the end of the day. And this guy, as poorly as he's expressing it, is perceiving that "normal" altruistic socially-positive behavior is not longer being adequately rewarded in our society. That "being a straight guy" now is considered so bad, that even being "a good guy" isn't enough to offset the negative factors.

The "right thing to do" is not a constant. It changes over time. This is evidence that it's changing. And no one here at Voat would argue that this wasn't an intended outcome of cultural marxism, unless you're a shill faggot. The intended breakdown of western social cohesion. The breakdown of trust. The breakdown of the many and varied forms of subtle "risk vs reward" outcomes that maintain adherence to unspoken social contracts in our society.

Now, note that the retort comes from a Japanese person or faggot otaku. Putting aside empty moralizing and virtue signalling from some internet rando and taking their words at face value: Japanese people ain't hooking up enough to maintain their society long-term anymore, and otakus marry pillows with anime characters drawn on them. These are people who have lost sight of the "sex as reward" aspect of social cohesion. They don't expect mating and general marital partnership as part of the natural give and take of their social contract. And it's killing them.

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[–] 9005461? 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

This is why it annoys me when people disparage MGTOW, it is a rational reaction to the current breakdown and moral decay in Western society. Women have huge privileges that are no longer balanced, and with women being narcissistic, vapid and politically retarded unless placed under the wing of a strong and confident man - their rampant degeneracy and stupidity is dragging down society and men are throwing their hands up in disgust and refusing to have anything to do with them. Gender relations have been destroyed, the nuclear family ideal erased, and the respect and trust between men and women eradicated due to the erosion of trust and social homogeneity.

Don't blame men for opting out of the game of life, blame (((those)) people who make it unfair and not worthwhile to play.

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[–] RodentLord 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I don't have an issue with MGTOW, I just think that it should be a movement primarily geared towards young guys.

Fuck the judgement, the smart thing to do is to spend your 20s and 30s making a shitload of money, then in their 40s develop filters (one might even call them 'shit tests') to find the quality women who are in their young 20s and have some virtue left and shape them into ideal wives.

Once you're in your 50s and are MGTOW, the acronym changes to "Men Genociding Themselves Over Women" (not my words).

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[–] Spaghetti_Forgetti 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Just wanted to say both of you have good points.

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[–] armday2day 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Nah man. You help someone because you get to beat a fool and bask in the glory of being a hero.

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[–] Hall_of_Cost 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Not if she's fat, though.

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[–] Diogenes_The_Cynic 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Fuck off with that. I'm nobodys unpaid security detail.

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[–] massiveprivilege 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Eat shit roasty. If i see you getting raped on the street im just moving on and laughing. I could give two shits about society it can burn. Get your boyfriend to protect you you entitled wet hole.

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[–] RodentLord 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

WTF is a roasty. I've only ever seen that term on r/incel AKA the saddest place on the internet.

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[–] ShitArchon [S] 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago  (edited ago)

You're right. I noticed there was a racial angle to it and figured it would go over better on Voat than Reddit, not because I put a lot of thought into the subvoat chosen. Coonshire might have been better.

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[–] Plague1 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Identitarian would have been perfect.

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[–] Pwning4Ever 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

TO be fair, Japanese Anon doesn't have to worry about helping people getting mugged because he lives in Japan where people don't mug each other.

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[–] ShitArchon [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Exactly. He may very well be thinking in terms of "helping old ladies" not "braving life and limb vs. a knife-wielding thug."

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[–] Pwning4Ever 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] srgmpdns 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Relevant video:

China LACKS good Samaritans and it's TERRIBLE!

tl;dw:

China, a homogeneous society, has very low social trust.

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[–] ShitArchon [S] 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

And this, kids, is why a world without Europeans would be a bad idea.

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[–] BiscuitFever 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

China isn't Japan. You get heavily punished by law in communist China for helping someone.

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[–] 9007653? 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Really? Can you elaborate on that?

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[–] Artofchoke 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It's probably a mistake in some cases to help, but those of us who react that way, who jump in, don't really get time to contemplate all the maybes, we just act. Some people freeze, and that is also a reaction they don't get to choose - it just happens to them. You help not just your fellow humans, but any living thing you see in a crisis. Anybody who isn't doing that, I can't relate.

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