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Is America becoming a police state? What can I do to help turn this trend around? by bugthebug in Anonymous

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Cops can tell you what to say, taze you for arguing with them, arrest journalists, and arrest you for filming them. They can break up peaceful protests by force. They bring assault weapons to memorial services and gay rights marches and anti-war demonstrations.

My sides, you have no idea what the First Amendment is about:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Cops can tell you what to say

[Citation required]

taze you for arguing with them

Don't argue with cops, talk to them civilly.

arrest journalists

[Citation required]

arrest you for filming them

[Citation required]

Most states don't seem to have tried to take your guns away, but that won't stop them from arming the police with military weapons. If the police attack you, where can you go for help? Why are the (civilian) police forces authorized to carry weapons which are illegal in the states they police? Do police really get into gunfights with heavily armed drug dealers and save the lives of crowds of law abiding citizens, like something out of a 1980's cop thriller?

Again, you do not seem to understand the text in the constitution:

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Here, join a militia then. Nothings stopping you other than getting out of your chair.

Cops can seize your property without cause or warrant (civil forfeiture), and search your car, phone, or house without cause or warrant. Don't believe me? Look it up. Multiple recent court decisions defend an officer's wish to do whatever he wants with your things.

civil forfeiture

If you have such a problem with it then get in contact with your local representatives and try to get the law changed, or organize protests. STFU & GBTW.

Cops can arrest you on the spot for literally anything they see fit, and you will be held -at least- until your bail hearing, and you will be lucky if you can afford your bail. Also, they can compel you through whatever means they see fit (lying, threatening, depriving of basic needs, torture) to bear testimony against yourself, even if you are innocent (any testimony given under duress is admissible to the court, and usually leads to conviction regardless of proof-of-guilt). Also, they fund their own departments by issuing citations and stealing property (seriously, if you haven't looked up civil forfeiture, do it now).

What you just talked about has literally nothing to do with the Fifth Amendment. I'm beginning to think you've never even read the Constitution. The Fifth Amendment has to do with capital crimes, or "except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia".

Cops can arrest you on the spot for literally anything they see fit, and you will be held -at least- until your bail hearing, and you will be lucky if you can afford your bail. Also, they can compel you through whatever means they see fit (lying, threatening, depriving of basic needs, torture) to bear testimony against yourself, even if you are innocent (any testimony given under duress is admissible to the court, and usually leads to conviction regardless of proof-of-guilt)

[Citation required]

You can be kept in jail for years before you are brought before a judge, and can expect no help or information from the prison guards.

[Citation required]

Guards are there to keep people in, not to save lives.

What kind of guard are you talking about? Corrections officer, correctional officer, or a penal officer? The three do different jobs. Also yes, the main part of a prison guard's job is keeping degenerates in.

Numerous cases are rising to the public view regarding prison conditions, and maybe we should start throwing the 'cruel and unusual' term around. Either way, in 2011, 3 people died in American jails -every day- with countless others tortured or left off the books (think Chicago's interrogation fiasco this year, or Guantanamo).

Which is why we should bring back the firing wall :)

Some Judges set reasonable bail, others do not. Some of the Judges caught setting unreasonable bail are called out, or disciplined, most are not.

[Citation required]

Think about that next time you're tempted to flip off a police officer.

What would even be achieved from flipping off a police officer? You're retarded.

They will kill you if you do not fall in line exactly when and how they tell you.

Yeah you're a fucking faggot and you should take all of those dildos out of your asshole.

I'm going to keep my head down until I can afford to get the Hell out of here.

Bye, have a great time!

How can we stop this?

If you're leaving I don't see why you should be concerned, like I said. Have a great time!

Flux removed 3.2 years ago on 7/16/2015 3:19:52 AM

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Is America becoming a police state? What can I do to help turn this trend around? by bugthebug in Anonymous

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Cops can tell you what to say, taze you for arguing with them, arrest journalists, and arrest you for filming them. They can break up peaceful protests by force. They bring assault weapons to memorial services and gay rights marches and anti-war demonstrations.

My sides, you have no idea what the First Amendment is about:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Cops can tell you what to say

[Citation required]

taze you for arguing with them

Don't argue with cops, talk to them civilly.

arrest journalists

[Citation required]

arrest you for filming them

[Citation required]

Most states don't seem to have tried to take your guns away, but that won't stop them from arming the police with military weapons. If the police attack you, where can you go for help? Why are the (civilian) police forces authorized to carry weapons which are illegal in the states they police? Do police really get into gunfights with heavily armed drug dealers and save the lives of crowds of law abiding citizens, like something out of a 1980's cop thriller?

Again, you do not seem to understand the text in the constitution:

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Here, join a militia then. Nothings stopping you other than getting out of your chair.

Cops can seize your property without cause or warrant (civil forfeiture), and search your car, phone, or house without cause or warrant. Don't believe me? Look it up. Multiple recent court decisions defend an officer's wish to do whatever he wants with your things.

civil forfeiture

If you have such a problem with it then get in contact with your local representatives and try to get the law changed, or organize protests. STFU & GBTW.

Cops can arrest you on the spot for literally anything they see fit, and you will be held -at least- until your bail hearing, and you will be lucky if you can afford your bail. Also, they can compel you through whatever means they see fit (lying, threatening, depriving of basic needs, torture) to bear testimony against yourself, even if you are innocent (any testimony given under duress is admissible to the court, and usually leads to conviction regardless of proof-of-guilt). Also, they fund their own departments by issuing citations and stealing property (seriously, if you haven't looked up civil forfeiture, do it now).

What you just talked about has literally nothing to do with the Fifth Amendment. I'm beginning to think you've never even read the Constitution. The Fifth Amendment has to do with capital crimes, or "except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia".

Cops can arrest you on the spot for literally anything they see fit, and you will be held -at least- until your bail hearing, and you will be lucky if you can afford your bail. Also, they can compel you through whatever means they see fit (lying, threatening, depriving of basic needs, torture) to bear testimony against yourself, even if you are innocent (any testimony given under duress is admissible to the court, and usually leads to conviction regardless of proof-of-guilt)

[Citation required]

You can be kept in jail for years before you are brought before a judge, and can expect no help or information from the prison guards.

[Citation required]

Guards are there to keep people in, not to save lives.

What kind of guard are you talking about? Corrections officer, correctional officer, or a penal officer? The three do different jobs. Also yes, the main part of a prison guard's job is keeping degenerates in.

Numerous cases are rising to the public view regarding prison conditions, and maybe we should start throwing the 'cruel and unusual' term around. Either way, in 2011, 3 people died in American jails -every day- with countless others tortured or left off the books (think Chicago's interrogation fiasco this year, or Guantanamo).

Which is why we should bring back the firing wall :)

Some Judges set reasonable bail, others do not. Some of the Judges caught setting unreasonable bail are called out, or disciplined, most are not.

[Citation required]

Think about that next time you're tempted to flip off a police officer.

What would even be achieved from flipping off a police officer? You're retarded.

They will kill you if you do not fall in line exactly when and how they tell you.

Yeah you're a fucking faggot and you should take all of those dildos out of your asshole.

I'm going to keep my head down until I can afford to get the Hell out of here.

Bye, have a great time!

How can we stop this?

If you're leaving I don't see why you should be concerned, like I said. Have a great time!

Flux removed 3.2 years ago on 7/16/2015 3:19:24 AM

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