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[–] venuspcs 7 points 147 points (+154|-7) ago 

  • The P2P is **ONLY **to share updates via your OWN NETWORK.
  • Telemetry - this is nothing new, Microsoft has collected logs and crash data from their OSes and Software for years. Even Apple does it with OSX. But if you are that paranoid download NTLite and remove Asimov.
  • Real-Time Protection is there for a reason, to protect people. You can turn it off for varying intervals but yes it turns back on automatically to keep you protected. If you install a 3rd Party Antivirus like Trend Micro, Avast, etc. Windows 10 automatically disables Windows Defender.
  • Cortana is a Web-Based service. The volume of data needed to make it work properly would not fit on most computers. But if you are that paranoid you can turn Cortana and Web Search off. On the taskbar click on the Magnifier icon, then click the Sandwich Icon top left, then click settings and turn Cortana and Web Search off. Then right click an empty space on the taskbar, click search and then hidden.
  • Content-Suggestions - Yes the ads are there, but you can go to Settings>Privacy>Manage my Microsoft advertising and other personalization info - This will open a webpage in your default browser. Once signed in you can turn off Browser-Ads (from Microsoft), and OS ads (from Microsoft)
  • WiFi Sense - This is really easy to turn off, go to Settings>Network & Internet>Manage Wi-Fi Settings and turn off "Connect to networks shared by my contacts
  • Automatic Updates (Forced Updates) - these can easily be turned off as well - go to Settings>Network & Internet> Advanced Options and turn on "Set as metered connection". This will have to be done for every network you connect to so don't forget.

Lastly, OP you did all that work providing links to feed the conspiracy but did no work to actually show that it isn't as bad as you claim or that everything you are complaining about can be fixed easily.

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[–] Alphamatroxom 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

The P2P is clearly not only for your local network or there wouldn't be two options one of which says "PCs on my local network" and the other saying "PCs on my local network and PCs on the internet". Guess which one is default? The one that makes Microsoft an asshat

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[–] venuspcs 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I stand corrected, but you can turn that off by going to Settings>Updates & Security>Advanced Options then "Choose how updates are delivered"

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[–] Ravage 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

You are clearly on low end of end users;

1.) There is a complete turn-off option for P2P http://i.imgur.com/XnZFBlV.jpg

2.) Its on by default because this was one of the most hyped OS rollouts since 7: everybody wanted to try it out, and they gave it out for FREE. Their servers would have been slaughtered.

3.) Every single one of these concerns can be addressed directly at install - except for updates and telemetry, which were documented within hours. And basic telemetry only sends health and performance info: I.e. how well Win10 runs on whatever shitbox PC you put it on.

This is the biggest conspiracy shitpost I've seen yet, and I'm ashamed it got this many upvoats.

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[–] hirolash 3 points 6 points (+9|-3) ago 

Shut up and take my upvoat.

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[–] venuspcs 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

LOL! Upvoat accepted!

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[–] Laserchalk 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

The WiFi sharing sounds like something I would use. It would be nice if it automatically signs in my friends when they come over.

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[–] steveo 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If someone I gave my wifi password to decided to share it with his 400 FB friends, what's to keep me from letting them in

What stops them from doing that already? If you are seriously concerned about wireless security, set up a RADIUS server already and forget about wifi sense.

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[–] venuspcs 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It doesn't work that way.....It only shares YOUR PASSWORD to YOUR FRIENDS.....they can ONLY SHARE THEIR PASSWORD with their friends.....they cant share your passwords with their friends.

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[–] wootnessmonsters 2 points 32 points (+34|-2) ago 

I just hope and pray that Linux picks up on gaming...fuck what a nightmare.

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[–] duplissi 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Not much of an option with DX12 on the horizon. Sadly. Most developers will ignore Vulkan in favor of DX12, so if you are serious about PC gaming, you are forced into Windows 10.

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[–] wootnessmonsters 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah I tried dual-boot long ago, but it's just not an alternative, I end up on Windows all the time because 99% of what I do is games+webbrowsing, and I don't really feel/felt like rebooting my computer every time I just want to see something on the web.

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[–] Alphamatroxom 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

SteamOS? It's being worked on still

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[–] Psylent 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I have high hopes for that, with the PC market steam has (without researching it) I'd guess it's the largest pc gaming market online there is - they might have the push to be able to make it happen.

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[–] plumsound 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Had no idea; that is great news.

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[–] 1428582 1 points 22 points (+23|-1) ago  (edited ago)

You can turn off the P2P after installation.

You cannot turn off telemetry.

You can turn off Windows Defender by installing other antivirus.

You can turn off Cortana and Web Search

You can turn off Content suggestions

You can turn off Wifi sense

I still agree that Windows 10 is not a secure choice, partly because it's a rolling release model, and Microsoft can and will make changes that you cannot refuse if you want to be given security updates.

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[–] 1429567 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

With windows 10, there is no final product. It is a continuous work in progress, that's what the rolling release is, and any changes and updates are rolled out to consumers to test before it gets rolled out to enterprise. Computerworld article

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[–] DreamkeepersFan 2 points 12 points (+14|-2) ago 

Thank you for sharing this and I had my suspicion, I am glad that I made the right move by moving my entire workstation over to Linux just last week and dropping the Action Pack plan for next year.

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[–] fourthcoming 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I feel like win10's potential for surveillance aligns extremely well with the US govt's needs, CISA specifically. Maybe I'm just wearing a foil hat here but it really seems like Microsoft is betting on state sponsored surveillance being a profitable source of income.

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[–] devland 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Updates also cannot be turned off nor can you choose which ones to get.

"Updates" refers to anything M$ wishes to install on your system including third party applications.

Basically they can install anything they want on your system without your consent and without any notification.

THIS is why I will not install Windows 10.

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[–] king_of_the_universe 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

http://www.maximumpc.com/microsoft-utility-allows-windows-10-home-users-to-block-unwanted-updates-working/

"Microsoft Utility Allows Windows 10 Home Users to Block Unwanted Updates"

Article from yesterday. It also says:

"It's not clear if the utility will work with the final version of Windows 10, though chances are it will since it works just fine with the RTM."

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[–] devland 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Even if the utility works the updates are disabled/hidden only temporarily.

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[–] faggleamirox 4 points 5 points (+9|-4) ago 

You...I like people like you. If Voat had a gold system I'd give it to you, you greedy Jew.

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[–] Flux [S] 3 points 7 points (+10|-3) ago 

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[–] Dirty_Asshole 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Voat Golda

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[–] escapefromredditbay 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

thank you, your doing good work here.

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