[–] sonuvspam 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

No, they'd have to get jobs or produce something. That's not in their DNA

[–] ItsBad 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Look the fundamental problem is the (((elites))) are actively work against us. Political systems don't matter as nearly as much.

Remember how people who wanted Bernie switched over to Trump?

Therefore the best method is to create a populist platform (of any kind) for the people and not for the (((elites))).

Create a platform that looks good, form an organization with people, launch politicians up for election.

If even then you can't get them onto the platform then say you support balkanization and succession - that way they can work for your goals, but have their goals supported as well by creating their own state.

Obviously doing all this is more involved than saying all of this, but I think you should think about these ideas at least.

[–] ForTheUltimate [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If even then you can't get them onto the platform then say you support balkanization and succession - that way they can work for your goals, but have their goals supported as well by creating their own state.

Is this for us ancaps? Get real. It doesn't seem like a normal part of a national socialist platform.

Here's the problem: we already have a populist platform. The populist platform is the problem.

Crazy right? The populist platform is what gives the elites power and authority. So you haven't changed anything. It's impossible and without precedent to create a populist platform that does not serve the elites.

It's the elites that benefit at the top from the schemes of welfare and regulation. It gives them the cover to introduce their special interests. Meanwhile, these schemes are totally degenerate. The budget deficit and economic interventions are a disaster. And soon that disaster will grow from having overcome the titan of capitalism and soon will overcome it twice and trice and your entire civilization will fall through the cracks of economic support. If it happens swiftly enough, you may be able to hopefully purge the right people and reunite in a productive way. However the latter part is extremely unlikely. If it happens slowly like it's doing now. You are fucked.

Good luck

We're telling you that your medicine is poison as your taking more of it.

Trump may have given you a won battle on culture, which might win the war on culture. But you are yet to face your biggest obstacle.

The state is a concept through which people get authority to steal and enslave others. Whatever it creates it does by destroying more.

The only populist platform that can succesfully launch politicians for elections is a destructive one. The only way then is to lie, and then turn pinochet. But full pinochet. Mao style pinochet.

[–] ItsBad 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I always thought populist meant "for the people", "a member or adherent of a political party seeking to represent the interests of ordinary people.". We're using different definitions here. The media demonizes populism as "anti-democratic" somehow, so unless hegelian dialectic is being used here they really are against it. But yes there are of course, and always are, fake populists that are really against us.

Yes I agree they benefit from welfare, special interests, etc.

People aren't as attached to their beliefs and ideologies as they appear. Especially nowadays as they are desperate for a win. For example in spite of Trump appearing to support Israel they still back him. If they can get what they want they will be willing to sacrifice for it. Also National Socialism is popular mostly because of Hitler memes and being the opposite of what the (((mainstream))) wants, so people see it as a viable alternative, I don't think the actual ideologies have much real backing.

The purpose of the state in the current era is not to fund roads, it is to fund terrorist attacks on its own people and suppress technology - and making them pay for it with their own taxes. People say that government protects them from attacks through the military but it's the same governments provoking and encouraging these wars to happen in the first place. With how little government actually gives us if you actually examine things, it serves no real purpose really.

[–] Cracklord 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

NATIONAL SOCIALISM NOW

[–] ForTheUltimate [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

moron, stop competing with our electrons

[–] Cracklord 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

okay cuck

[–] HarlandKornfeld14 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Capitalism is Jewish. Jews expelled from Spain and England converged in the Netherlands and that is how capitalism formed. Even the ostensibly pro-capitalist Zerohedge lowkey admitted this https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-15/martin-armstrong-asks-will-global-warming-sink-netherlands

The Edict of Expulsion was a royal decree issued by King Edward I (1272-1307) of England on July 18th, 1290, expelling all Jews from the Kingdom of England. Why? The Jews were the king’s personal property, and he was free to tax them at will whereas British citizens could not be taxed without their consent which was obtained from Parliament. Edward I borrowed extensively from the Jews and taxes them to the point that they were no longer a source of revenue. He then expelled them and they were not allowed to take their property so it was the final confiscation to fund his war with France. Meanwhile, it was Philip IV (1268-1314AD) of France who seized the Knights Templar, the Catholic Church moving it to Avignon installing a French Pope, and confiscating the assets of Italian bankers who were lending money to Edward I. This greed for taxation contributed to the first migration of the Jews to the Low Countries

Sephardic Spanish Jews had once constituted one of the largest and most prosperous Jewish communities in the world and were regarded as the unquestioned leader of the Jewish world. During this period Sephardic Spanish Jews ended definitively with the anti-Jewish riots of 1391 about 100 years after the 1290 expulsion from England. Then about 100 years later, there was in Spain the Alhambra Decree of 1492 against the Jews. It seems that every time society could not repay the Jewish bankers, the borrowers suddenly discovered they were OMG Jewish. Consequently, the majority of Jews in Spain around 200,000 converted to Catholicism after the Alhambra Decree. Those who refused were forced into exile and migrated to the Netherlands where they began insurance and trading of commodities, bonds, and stocks in Amsterdam.

[–] ForTheUltimate [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

and if jews drink water does it make drinking water jewish?

If somehting is practiced by jews it does not mkae it jewish.

if jews practice capitalism it does not make it jewish.

and wtf would that mean anyway gtfo

What's the difference between a wheel and the same wheel but Jewish wheel? none

[–] HarlandKornfeld14 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Okay, you say National Socialists should abandon socialism. What I am saying is that National Socialism was an ideology created by white people, whereas capitalism was created by Jews, so it has that going for it. He is Hitler's own definition of National Socialism taken from 1932

'Socialist' I define from the word 'social' meaning 'social equity'. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality...our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxist Socialism. Marxism is anti-property, true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the individual or individual effort, or efficiency, true Socialism values the individual and encourages individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community.

"Socialist" is in being for the common the good is better than "greed is good" capitalism. One causes the people to work together the other turns everyone against the other with greed and envy.

Notwithstanding, I think National Socialism is an exclusively German ideology, really only suited for it's time, place, and particular set of circumstances.