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[–] 1967403? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Truth can be measured by the degree to which it can be verified. Verification is better when it combines multiple methodologies, i.e. video, audio, multiple witnesses, black cat hair in the vicinity, paw prints, your presence there, finding the cat it question, as well as other factors such as, were you in the location where you said you saw the cat, do you have functional vision, do you have a history of fabricating, was the environment one in which you and a cat are likely to be present (not so much if you were on the moon).

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[–] plumpton 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

If serious, check the Sosa and Kim's 'Epistemology' published by Blackwell.

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[–] zn_zb 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Numbers seem to be the only real truth, because they can be measured, exactly. However it seems like even numbers can be subjective. 2+2=4 seems like an indisputable truth. However if you break down what is in 2+2 how do we know the 2 = 2? Is it 2 pounds of oranges, and if so, we have to look at each pound of oranges. There is no way they can be exactly the same. It seems pure math is the only real truth, otherwise, subjectivity and perspective plays a role. Nothing in the real world can be exactly the same as something else. If you look closer and closer, down to the individual molecules, they won't be the exact same. The smaller you get, the closer to being the same they are. Each molecule of water has 2 hydrogen and one oxygen molecules, but are the electrons in the exact same place as the next molecule? Perhaps I went a bit too far, but it seems like pure math is the only real truth, everything else has some amount of, "close enough"

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[–] zn_zb 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yes, that makes sense. As you mentioned the theoretical, while it makes sense, doesn't always work on a practical level. Theoretically there can't be a perfect 2 = 2, but in reality, 2=2 is close enough. Math really is the only certainty in that it has a specific value. If I have $2 and add 2$ more, I have $4. There is no variation or room for interpretation, they are designated a specific value. I don't think there is anything but math that leaves zero room for interpretation.

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[–] New_Iso 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Short answer, no.

With enough intelligence and number crunching you can figure out anything - to a reasonable degree. Truth, for contemporary human society, is the visual recounting of an event i.e. video and/or photographical evidence. Physical evidence aside (everything from murder victims to UFO fragments), people currently attribute truth to visual evidence.

But this is flawed and incomplete. With enough technology such images can be falsified.

The long road I’m heading down is that you can’t prove anything to anyone unless they experience it firsthand too.

You should ask: is trust measurable?

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[–] syn0byte 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No, and anyone claiming otherwise is just trying to sell you something. Usually selling you into their way of thinking.

The real question I have is, why do any of us care?