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264$ stolen after viciously murdering a family with child
20$ stolen after grievous torture of an elderly couple
a farmer is torn to pieces, and a phone and clothes are taken
other elderly people tortured and threatened for a car and some guns
a woman raped, a man savagely killed for some money and then the niggers laugh
Read these caps, you dishonest nigger.
Okay, I can tell you right off the bat that there is no issue of white farmers in particular being killed.
You're a lying piece of shit. Even your website tells something different.
In 2001, the police’s Crime Information Analysis Centre revealed that of the 1,398 people attacked on farms, 61.6% were white, 33.3% were black, 4.4% were Asian and 0.7% were listed as “other”. This data is now more than 15 years old and should not be assumed to be representative of the current situation.
should not be assumed to be representative of the current situation.
Even if blacks are killed too, the whites are still the majority of the victims DESPITE BEING THE MINORITY IN THE COUNTRY. Also you purposefully dismiss that white victims are subject to far more extreme violence than black victims.
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What the… Nothing you have shown disproves my point but only adds detail that isn't even detrimental to my argument. You talk about money stolen, violence done and some mocking but I'm not arguing whether or not the attacks are violent or bad but rather that there is some fight against whites in South Africa. You make a claim that I can only conclude as being either deceptive or you're just being ignorant on purpose.
Even if blacks are killed too, the whites are still the majority of the victims DESPITE BEING THE MINORITY IN THE COUNTRY.
So what? We're not talking about the number of blacks and whites in South Africa, which as you said is correct to say that most are black. But we're talking about farm owners here not the national population. And when you simply look at the farmer population 60% of the victims are white and 30% of the victims are black which coincides with the black and white farm owner population, again not national demographic you idiot but the land ownership demographic.
should not be assumed to be representative of the current situation.
Doesn't even refute the point since there are more recent studies and unless you can provide evidence that somehow the black farm ownership has changed then your points are mute.
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You've made a claim that farms are attacked because they are wealthy - it is not true, because most farmers barely get by. Even if they were wealthy, I've provided you reports of the levels of torture against white people that disprove the claim that "it's just robberies".
You've made a claim that these attacks are theft, not racially motivated assaults. Look above, and look at the witness and perp testimonies - even they clearly say about how their attacks were caused by hatred against whites. I've already presented the fact that the black victims receive far less grievous treatment from the attackers.
The only claim that (maybe) has some merit is about the percentage of land ownership, but even then you're purposefully dismissing the fact that it's been stated that one of the goals of farm attacks is scaring white landowners away and making them sell or leave their property behind. Meanwhile one of the black groups in the country calls for land expropriation without compensation, just when these attacks are taking place. Attacks done exclusively by blacks. Coincidence, I'm certain.
The extreme levels of violence are used to intimidate landowners with the sole purpose of scaring the farmers away from their property to facilitate the land invasion process, argues Neels Moolman of the Department of Criminology at the University of Limpopo. He further argues that the spoils obtained during these attacks can be regarded as a bonus and not the primary aim of the attack.
<but I'm not arguing whether or not the attacks are violent or bad but rather that there is some fight against whites in South Africa.
Yes, indeed, there is "some fight against whites". There is a wave of organized crime aimed overwhelmingly against white minority; the country's government is complicit; the mass media (and local media in SA, as it turns out) is silent about it all. The purpose of this thread is raising awareness about it and trying to spread this message. Meanwhile, you come here, pull out some outdated statistics and try to make "some" point; you try pussyfooting around the subject and trying to create confusion without outright denying the ethnic genocide that is taking place as we speak.
But we're talking about farm owners here not the national population.
So? The higher percentage of white people among land owners doesn't explain the higher level of violence against them. I already proved that robbery is not the primary cause of farm attacks, so it's not because "whites are richer". Besides, what other comparison do you want to make? What else can we compare with farm attacks to prove that the problem is significant and exceeds the other areas of the country? Pics related.
Your claim towards White Afrikaners that "they're not victims" is completely absurd in lieu of the facts I have presented thus far, and it's purposefully provocative and untrue. As such, I believe you should fuck off back to cuckchan, or whatever other hole you've crawled out from.
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Absolute majority of attacks are aimed at white people who are absolutely not wealthy. Look at the amount of money stolen during attacks.
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Read these caps, you dishonest nigger.
You're a lying piece of shit. Even your website tells something different.
Even if blacks are killed too, the whites are still the majority of the victims DESPITE BEING THE MINORITY IN THE COUNTRY. Also you purposefully dismiss that white victims are subject to far more extreme violence than black victims.
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What the… Nothing you have shown disproves my point but only adds detail that isn't even detrimental to my argument. You talk about money stolen, violence done and some mocking but I'm not arguing whether or not the attacks are violent or bad but rather that there is some fight against whites in South Africa. You make a claim that I can only conclude as being either deceptive or you're just being ignorant on purpose.
So what? We're not talking about the number of blacks and whites in South Africa, which as you said is correct to say that most are black. But we're talking about farm owners here not the national population. And when you simply look at the farmer population 60% of the victims are white and 30% of the victims are black which coincides with the black and white farm owner population, again not national demographic you idiot but the land ownership demographic.
Doesn't even refute the point since there are more recent studies and unless you can provide evidence that somehow the black farm ownership has changed then your points are mute.
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You've made a claim that farms are attacked because they are wealthy - it is not true, because most farmers barely get by. Even if they were wealthy, I've provided you reports of the levels of torture against white people that disprove the claim that "it's just robberies".
You've made a claim that these attacks are theft, not racially motivated assaults. Look above, and look at the witness and perp testimonies - even they clearly say about how their attacks were caused by hatred against whites. I've already presented the fact that the black victims receive far less grievous treatment from the attackers.
The only claim that (maybe) has some merit is about the percentage of land ownership, but even then you're purposefully dismissing the fact that it's been stated that one of the goals of farm attacks is scaring white landowners away and making them sell or leave their property behind. Meanwhile one of the black groups in the country calls for land expropriation without compensation, just when these attacks are taking place. Attacks done exclusively by blacks. Coincidence, I'm certain.
<but I'm not arguing whether or not the attacks are violent or bad but rather that there is some fight against whites in South Africa.
Yes, indeed, there is "some fight against whites". There is a wave of organized crime aimed overwhelmingly against white minority; the country's government is complicit; the mass media (and local media in SA, as it turns out) is silent about it all. The purpose of this thread is raising awareness about it and trying to spread this message. Meanwhile, you come here, pull out some outdated statistics and try to make "some" point; you try pussyfooting around the subject and trying to create confusion without outright denying the ethnic genocide that is taking place as we speak.
So? The higher percentage of white people among land owners doesn't explain the higher level of violence against them. I already proved that robbery is not the primary cause of farm attacks, so it's not because "whites are richer". Besides, what other comparison do you want to make? What else can we compare with farm attacks to prove that the problem is significant and exceeds the other areas of the country? Pics related.
Your claim towards White Afrikaners that "they're not victims" is completely absurd in lieu of the facts I have presented thus far, and it's purposefully provocative and untrue. As such, I believe you should fuck off back to cuckchan, or whatever other hole you've crawled out from.
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You could get a PR gig in the Ramaphosa admin.