The Mormons are the church in the US closest to cucking that can still be brought back from the brink.
The majority of Mormons are solid, clean-living people with strong culturally conservative instincts. But prog cancer is spreading surprisingly quickly. Until recently you only saw it online but the progs have become bolder, speaking up in church services and trying to force institutional changes.
In many parts of North America there's a shortage of men. Porn and video games are the main reason. Guys get sucked into those, don't go on their mission and stop attending church out of shame/depression/cynicism. Every time it happens, one more faithful girl doesn't have a husband. It's worst in the Mountain West. In some YSA wards there are two or three women for every man. It isn't worth going into the reasons for this. Mistakes were made. We compromised too much with modernity.
I'm a Mormon (Latter-day Saint is the preferred term these days), 28, a grad student, married, two kids, closeted cynical right-winger and I've never posted on a board like this before. But desperate times, right.
I won't be able to take it if the church cucks. What we've created is too fucking amazing to lose. Deseret is the closest humanity has ever come to utopia. We need more solid Mormon families, more babies. There are beautiful girls (Mormons are mostly English and Scandinavian stock) growing old without ever bearing children.
I'm begging you. I know you think Mormonism is ridiculous. I know, magic underwear and planets and whatever. But you've got it wrong. I'm begging you. Find some missionaries, take the leap and go full Mormon. Quit the weed, the video games and the porn. Be a man. Get off the internet. Find a good girl, she'll follow your lead. She needs you.
I won't be posting on here again. Godspeed.
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[–] 19205736? ago
Without free will, how do you not devolve into nihilism though? Losing faith in Mormonism left me in the nihilist pit for years. It all but wasted my youth. I'm only recently redpilled but it's brought me out of that pit of despair finally.
[–] 19205741? ago
I don't need free will, it is a lie anyway because it is not consistently expressed. For something to be a part of natural law it has to be True or at least consistent. The idea of free will is neither True nor consistent in reality. Therefore since it is only 'partially true' it is an untruth aka not valuable in understanding reality. Absolutely everything is in its right place.
I understand what you are asking me though. I think a lot of people fall into despair and nihilism but rather than fall into that I became free for the first time in my entire life. It is a true saying that the Truth will set you free. Many people also fall into Atheism but it is not logically required (since God is either nowhere or everywhere) That is simply their own preference. You either fall into atheism in Hard Determinism or you fall into the understanding that God is everywhere, in everything, with you all the time, never seperate, all things are determined, all things are perfect, there is no more frustration or disappointment because you cannot make a mistake or a 'sin'. It is all just a learning process and God is always with you. It is nice. You have never 'done anything wrong' and you are not 'guilty' of anything because you can't be since even the tiniest particle is in its right place all the time. I think Hegel helps a lot in coming to an understanding with these things. This also has bearing on BioChem as well and the understanding of what makes a system 'living' and what makes it 'dead'.
Anyway, you simply execute whichever program you desire, be it reuniting with the Mormons, becoming a libertarian, and anarchist, a national socialist, etc and everything is impeccably locked into place forever. There is no changing or altering it. You are literally free to do whatever you want, whenever you want, for whatever reason you want because nothing is possible that was not already determined by everything around you, forever.