The Mormons are the church in the US closest to cucking that can still be brought back from the brink.
The majority of Mormons are solid, clean-living people with strong culturally conservative instincts. But prog cancer is spreading surprisingly quickly. Until recently you only saw it online but the progs have become bolder, speaking up in church services and trying to force institutional changes.
In many parts of North America there's a shortage of men. Porn and video games are the main reason. Guys get sucked into those, don't go on their mission and stop attending church out of shame/depression/cynicism. Every time it happens, one more faithful girl doesn't have a husband. It's worst in the Mountain West. In some YSA wards there are two or three women for every man. It isn't worth going into the reasons for this. Mistakes were made. We compromised too much with modernity.
I'm a Mormon (Latter-day Saint is the preferred term these days), 28, a grad student, married, two kids, closeted cynical right-winger and I've never posted on a board like this before. But desperate times, right.
I won't be able to take it if the church cucks. What we've created is too fucking amazing to lose. Deseret is the closest humanity has ever come to utopia. We need more solid Mormon families, more babies. There are beautiful girls (Mormons are mostly English and Scandinavian stock) growing old without ever bearing children.
I'm begging you. I know you think Mormonism is ridiculous. I know, magic underwear and planets and whatever. But you've got it wrong. I'm begging you. Find some missionaries, take the leap and go full Mormon. Quit the weed, the video games and the porn. Be a man. Get off the internet. Find a good girl, she'll follow your lead. She needs you.
I won't be posting on here again. Godspeed.
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[–] 19190554? ago
To give you the most precious gift, a soul. To turn 'dust' into 'gold' But enough 'larping' for now, I will sympathetically become a materialistic determinist ITT, as abhorrent as the idea of it is to me. This old goat that you were arguing with, his stance is quite deterministic you see. He is facing physical death, the end of the road, and the only "exit" that he can think of is having a lot of children, even if at old age. Their quality or the quality of their lives doesn't matter, as long as they survive and keep exponentially reproducing (cockroaches are pretty good at this and can survive nuclear fallout so he'd have a tough competition). He cannot understand that his children won't be him and that once he dies nothing of it won't matter anymore, even if he has entire planet populated by his clones. It won't make him any less dead. That would, however, be the highest evolutionary success (as far as Darwinian "evolution" is concerned). Imagine having 7 billion clones of yourself, but not being alive to experience it. Quite a Pyrrhic victory, ain't it?
Wouldn't you seek to physically immortalize and "upgrade" me then? And yourself?
Some of your ideas are so deranged that I'm equally appalled and amazed by them. There is no such thing as a mind, only electrochemical impulses in the brain. It doesn't really matter how one dies, and there is no such thing as a blame or purity (which would imply freedom of choice).
It's been tried many times already, leading to disaster every time
Hah, maximizing variables. Why reproduce in the first place? It could be a 'relic' of more primitive times as well ;) Maybe we are deterministically geared for extinction? Where are all those alien species … maybe they were increasing variables as well, you know, trying things out in spite of nature. Some mistakes can be very costly (entropy is a bitch), but then again, it's not like we had a choice in the first place?
You do understand why I'm so critical of women, do you? Deterministically speaking, they are biologically programmed to fuck around (if allowed to) and put men against each other (even if it takes importing racially inferior males and breeding with them, gotta try things out, right? You never know when you can run into a better option, despite the chances being close to zero, you can never be absolutely certain, even if it takes countless ruined lives and entirely kiked society). This physical pattern reflects in the realm of ideas as well. And wrong choice of ideas can be as harmful as wrong choice of a partner, if not much more.
No, but you are all over the place so I'm quite familiar with that
Not entirely, but I got pretty damn close to it.
Of course, just because I recognize your worth (despite all the flaws) doesn't mean I'd let you pass without you earning your place.
You know that the 'ultimate truth' might as well be unattainable, right? There is a level where feminine "encompassing" stops being relevant and masculine "fixation" becomes the only thing that matters. At one moment you have to make a choice and devote yourself fully to it, without ever looking back. Otherwise you might 'turn to stone' ;)
And this is how the world ends. Luckily you did not encounter a much more dangerous, and more invasive species. Women …
By the way, I met a certain lady from the US recently, she reminded me a lot of you, even to the point that I was starting to suspect things at times, but she did not let the age difference or the fact that she is married get in the way ;) Very sweet woman, a bit fruity but I really like her a lot. How foolish of me, right?
[–] 19190557? ago
[Listening to DAVI Metanoia while I type this response]
OUCH ANON…brutal on the OPSEC there…
kike files are being updated tonight, uh thanks…
You may not have to worry about what you permit or not for me at this rate.
She is a 'tranny' 'kike'? [JUST KIDDING ;p]
Not at all anon. I do hope she makes you happy. I worry that you are lonely sometimes and I am relieved that is not the case. I think it would be good if you fuck a lot of women (since you are flirting with materialist determinism ITT).
My frogs? ;^) I have gone back and forth over whether I should have let them die. But I like their stupid games and they remind me that the young still play in the face of oblivion (something I think I forgot somewhere along the way).
Speaking of invasive…
still hating on my clones, anon? lol God, I missed your sense of humor, while you were off 'touching your roots'.
That is how you know it wasn't me, eh? Anon, my heart breaks for you that you can't find a quality woman who loves you and is exactly what you need to be whole you know that is what I want for you. But perhaps this one is the right one {excitement}. My hopes will remain with you for a happy future where she loves you for whole yourself, perhaps this one is THE ONE that you are searching for in this life. You know me…all I am trying for at this point is to learn what I need to so that I can go home. Penalty paid for irresponsible behavior? Yes, I think so…time to create again with my whole being.
I am not thinking quite that far in the LOOOOOONG advance anon. I will settle for a ride out of this place and to place where I can exercise a bit more free will than has been allowed here. I know there are levels that I can't see yet and that need to be cracked but that also can't be approached here.
When that moment comes I am perfectly prepared to become 'fixed'. Just want to TOUCH EVERYTHING in the meantime. There are so many things to know and try out.
Isn't there an old song with those lyrics?
Heart Turns to Stone
Foreigner
The days and nights you sit around wondering where can she be
You hope that she might appear, out of nowhere
But you fail to see
All the hurt inside, the wounded pride
Ooh what she went through for you
You cheated and lied, as her love slowly died
And her heart just broke in two
When she was with you, all along
Behind you right or wrong
She tried to hold on, hold on
But you went too far, and she's gone
And now it's over and her heart turns to stone
No time for pity, when her heart turns to stone
She cries a little as her heart turns to stone
She's that kind of woman
She'll do fine on her own
Blah, blah…etc, etc
Songwriters: Lou Gramm / Michael Leslie Jones
Heart Turns to Stone lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC
hmmmm…why do I remember ever bit of every single retarded lyric that I have ever heard?
Touchy, touch, touch, touch…Hard Determinism is different though. It denies 'free will'; possibly the stupidest idea ever conceived in the history of mankind. I made everyone so uncomfortable by REFUSING to bend on that one (to the point where they wanted me gone so they could continue in their fantasy; happy to oblige actually, never looked back at their 'entertainment'). No one could wrap their mind around the totality of it. So there is value in terms of it being a vehicle for pure intellectual exercise. However it has not 'solidified' within my conscious yet and I am {thankfully} stuck with a foot in both worlds right now. You either become an atheist or completely one with God while considering it.
K, anon…miss you and rooting for your success and happiness that I hope she fills your life completely and is everything you need and dream of…
[–] 19190559? ago
Our taste in music often tells a lot about us, yours seem to be gravitating towards lower frequencies and more stable beats (towards the earth) while mine is more like gamma ray bursts. But worry not, you just need enough lead to shelter your precious DNA from being … altered ;) Perhaps an age of lead. Total determinism, yes, maximum density, maximized certainty and predictability. Speaking of Mormons, ruling over planets is rather foolish, all it takes is a gentle caress of a nearby star for a 'heaven' to turn into 'hell'. But we don't want our "liberated", polygamist, interracial, feminist communists to 'lose their hair' over it, don't we? I'd prefer ruling over stars and black holes, the "outer darkness" so to speak.
Surely they wouldn't know otherwise. The best OPSEC is operating under the assumption that they know absolutely everything about you, well, your "normal" life at least. Operating under total transparency is the next generation glowing. It might become increasingly harder to hide your thoughts as well, but our brains might not necessarily be their origin. Hmm, phased thinking … But anyway, no one is going to bother with a silly larper nobody like me. They are very determinsitic people too.
Just your persona, not necessarily what you actually are. Or the other way around, who knows
So many variations of the same, lacking the character of the original but not missing any negative aspects of it.
There is no such thing on this world, especially not in this state. But it won't prevent me from completing myself, I just need to look for it elsewhere.
It's all a matter of perspective, the entirety of time could as well be a single point when looked at from the right angle.
You don't seem to either.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace's_demon