The Green Party gained 20+% of the vote. 30+% among young people.
I can't stop thinking about that we need something radically new in the current century and that old-school right-wing politics isn't enough. What do these populist parties even offer? Just get rid of all immigrants and all will be fine? Then we will continue our current economic policies, our current social policies? That it?
I agree with the Left that a lot of the Populism is just talk to get populist support to gain power. The old Grachian brother and Tribune of the Plebs move.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLNvcTK6DTU
Farage for example is worshipped by many people, despite cucking the BNP, preventing UKIP from developing to something more than just an Anti-EU party and prevented them from becoming more nationalist.
If we can't get rid of refugees and immigrants, because you just get turned from wherever you are on the political spectrum to ultra far right, why not build camp-cities for them in our country and try to extract as much value from them as possible? They are coming here on their own. Why not use them as an economic ressource and exploit it as much as possible for the benefit of us?
And radically invest in Education, public transport, development of Green Spaces, National Parks. Try to become energy independet from fossil fuels ASAP.
And the EU. You know, old school nationalism and trying to take Prussia back won't work. The EU is a good way to fullfill our geopoltiical ambitions. We just need to adjust it in a better direction.
Why does Latvia and Estonia need to be independent? They are just going to be influenced by Russia, the US or China. Why not have a European Empire? I agree with Richard Spencer. Being anti EU is too short-sighted.
I am seriously thinking about these issues and I think that something like this might be much more succesful, than bruteforcing deporation of refugees and migrants, which will just get you hated. I think many Lefties would support that.
Can you talk me out of that?
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Yes, yes, 'very complex', that is what he kept saying… But is it really? So much more 'complex' than islam? I don't think so. I think its more blatant, we've just been more heavily conditioned against seeing it… And why is that? Because its the real (((enemy))). Islam is just a sword. Without the jews, Islam is nothing but inbred savages at our mercy. But WITH the jews, well… All that changes. And zionist are well aware of that and some of the worst offenders, because it serves them to present themselves as mild and humble and weak (while in reality being the most 'insidiious' and pervasive threat) while showing the muslims as hazard (while in reality being nothing but a consequence of jewish influence upon us).
You're right, I was paraphrasing. What he DID say was "jews aren't taking our women and putting them in hijabs or whatever" and he's right - jews are taking our women and putting them in pornographic films.
He went on to say "I don't think Zionism is inherently an enemy in that sense", referring to control over media and "how we dream" (whatever the fuck that means…), and that's an absolutely nonsensical statement in-context given the various connections of that sort between media and zionism.
I disagree, I would suggest the conflict with the jews is the TRUE civilizational clash, the islamic component is merely that - a component. The conflict with islam isn't even so much 'civilizational' so much as 'philosophical' and the brutal truth is, in many regards, islam has a better handle on its philosophy than does Western Europe under judaic subversion.
Declaring war on ISIS IS declaring war on jews, that's just the rub of it. Granted, nobody says so openly… But why not? I think this acceptance of the status quo on discussion is a falsehood, and the Overton window is much wider than the standard narrative I hear suggests.
I disagree with that in-entirety, particularly in the context of the israeli zionists.