The Green Party gained 20+% of the vote. 30+% among young people.
I can't stop thinking about that we need something radically new in the current century and that old-school right-wing politics isn't enough. What do these populist parties even offer? Just get rid of all immigrants and all will be fine? Then we will continue our current economic policies, our current social policies? That it?
I agree with the Left that a lot of the Populism is just talk to get populist support to gain power. The old Grachian brother and Tribune of the Plebs move.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLNvcTK6DTU
Farage for example is worshipped by many people, despite cucking the BNP, preventing UKIP from developing to something more than just an Anti-EU party and prevented them from becoming more nationalist.
If we can't get rid of refugees and immigrants, because you just get turned from wherever you are on the political spectrum to ultra far right, why not build camp-cities for them in our country and try to extract as much value from them as possible? They are coming here on their own. Why not use them as an economic ressource and exploit it as much as possible for the benefit of us?
And radically invest in Education, public transport, development of Green Spaces, National Parks. Try to become energy independet from fossil fuels ASAP.
And the EU. You know, old school nationalism and trying to take Prussia back won't work. The EU is a good way to fullfill our geopoltiical ambitions. We just need to adjust it in a better direction.
Why does Latvia and Estonia need to be independent? They are just going to be influenced by Russia, the US or China. Why not have a European Empire? I agree with Richard Spencer. Being anti EU is too short-sighted.
I am seriously thinking about these issues and I think that something like this might be much more succesful, than bruteforcing deporation of refugees and migrants, which will just get you hated. I think many Lefties would support that.
Can you talk me out of that?
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You're going to hit myriad cognitive brick-walls due to propaganda and conditioning, especially in Western Europe. Further, that's simply not going to develope into what we need.
We need a shared vision. That is what actually creates a movement. Unfortunately, our current adult generations have been infected with apathy, selfishness, materialism and nihlism in large part, so, often enough, any expression of passion or genuine sentiment just comes off as "gay" or "try hard" or "LARP" or some shit, ya know?
It comes back to what I said before:
<So… How in the flaming fuck are you thinking you're going to appeal, politically or philosophically, and to a beneficial end, to demoralized, deracinated, atomized, alienated, selfish, money-grubbing, materialistic, pessimistic, defensive, frivolous people who do not - CAN not - even UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF DUTY as a meaningful factor in your society? Especially while undergoing an influx of foreigners and a weakening of spiritual learning (aka religion)?
<Its not happening bro. Not a chance.
<You can't build a castle out of soft clay, not one thats going to stand against anything at least.
<You need stone, and stone can't simple be made so easily, not that I've seen at least.
I guess I should say further that, from what Ive seen in my short time on this rock, making stone out of clay is a process which requires great hardship and struggle, of a sort we have not yet had to experience - and I don't believe we will see this transitional process unless such struggle and hardship is felt.
That's just pipedreams IMHO given the current societal context. Self-sufficiency? Hah! The very concept is a joke, unless you've got an army behind you, because basically nobody else is self-sufficient, so guess whats going to happen the fucking instant there's a NEED to be self-sufficient? Being prepared is one thing and becoming some kind of stereotype of the doomsday prepper is another.
And this is where it falls apart, because of what I said above about racial solidarity/explicit racial advocacy being kept away from Europeans.
This is just motivational speaker-tier "positive thinking" shit man… And do you see? Even I am subject to looking at what is probably your attempt at an expression of genuine desire for a more positive cohesive union amongst at, and seeing nothing but the hollow words of Tony Robbins shit. Still, the point stands IMHO.
All valid advice, but not meaningful political action.
Okay. I'm not much one for protesting to be honest.