The Green Party gained 20+% of the vote. 30+% among young people.
I can't stop thinking about that we need something radically new in the current century and that old-school right-wing politics isn't enough. What do these populist parties even offer? Just get rid of all immigrants and all will be fine? Then we will continue our current economic policies, our current social policies? That it?
I agree with the Left that a lot of the Populism is just talk to get populist support to gain power. The old Grachian brother and Tribune of the Plebs move.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLNvcTK6DTU
Farage for example is worshipped by many people, despite cucking the BNP, preventing UKIP from developing to something more than just an Anti-EU party and prevented them from becoming more nationalist.
If we can't get rid of refugees and immigrants, because you just get turned from wherever you are on the political spectrum to ultra far right, why not build camp-cities for them in our country and try to extract as much value from them as possible? They are coming here on their own. Why not use them as an economic ressource and exploit it as much as possible for the benefit of us?
And radically invest in Education, public transport, development of Green Spaces, National Parks. Try to become energy independet from fossil fuels ASAP.
And the EU. You know, old school nationalism and trying to take Prussia back won't work. The EU is a good way to fullfill our geopoltiical ambitions. We just need to adjust it in a better direction.
Why does Latvia and Estonia need to be independent? They are just going to be influenced by Russia, the US or China. Why not have a European Empire? I agree with Richard Spencer. Being anti EU is too short-sighted.
I am seriously thinking about these issues and I think that something like this might be much more succesful, than bruteforcing deporation of refugees and migrants, which will just get you hated. I think many Lefties would support that.
Can you talk me out of that?
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[–] 18848660? ago
>>13324153
With what money? And why do you assume they'll be accepted?
You think Whitey will get the same treatment as the muds? Hah, guess again my man.
Well thats unfortunate. Maybe look into it and get back to us? That would be more constructive than simply stewing in desapir making comments like
ya know?
You're going to have to my man. This is YOUR STRUGGLE.
Maybe Gen Z WILL be based… When they're a bit older.
What does that even mean? I've never seen that. If you're doing degenerate shit and trying to say its 'just fun', well… You kinda walked into that one, didn't ya?
That's something that might actually happen.
I'm starting to this is a LARP again, or perhaps you've just got some personal issues you need to work out.
Yup. Just like the NSDAP in 1928, right?
Demonized by (((whom))), exactly? The people who want to destroy you?
Yeah man, why WOULD they do that?
It should.
There is nothing to be done at this time. I know that's not what you want to hear, but its the truth.
I say again:
The cycle of man:
<You are here
Its going to get worse before it gets better. You need to come to terms with that. If you can't, if you can't handle the struggle, then you do have the choice of walking away.
But thats a choice you have to make for yourself, and no amount of social signaling in despair will take that burden from your shoulders and yours alone.
[–] 18848664? ago
No it's not. get out and speak with the young and the old. Speak truth, talk problems and find way to unite them. Furthermore get as many as possible to become self sustaining, while shunning and actively protesting the beast system. Next show your colors by showing off your country flag everywhere (no political identity). You need unison, especially racial and most importantly segregate morally and stand up for each other at every opportunity. Instead of throwing slurs at others, use praise to boost yourselves. Also teach everyone to only move in large groups, build clans, financially help your own people in the neighborhood. Another thing…learn to chant. Sounds silly, but's it's one of the most efficient tools to unite mobs, terrify enemies, and confuse the shit out of anyone trying to discredit you. So whenever a jewish rat opens it's lying mouth to smear you, you get a group chant going that they can't understand. This also works great as means of protesting.
[–] 18848672? ago
You're going to hit myriad cognitive brick-walls due to propaganda and conditioning, especially in Western Europe. Further, that's simply not going to develope into what we need.
We need a shared vision. That is what actually creates a movement. Unfortunately, our current adult generations have been infected with apathy, selfishness, materialism and nihlism in large part, so, often enough, any expression of passion or genuine sentiment just comes off as "gay" or "try hard" or "LARP" or some shit, ya know?
It comes back to what I said before:
<So… How in the flaming fuck are you thinking you're going to appeal, politically or philosophically, and to a beneficial end, to demoralized, deracinated, atomized, alienated, selfish, money-grubbing, materialistic, pessimistic, defensive, frivolous people who do not - CAN not - even UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF DUTY as a meaningful factor in your society? Especially while undergoing an influx of foreigners and a weakening of spiritual learning (aka religion)?
<Its not happening bro. Not a chance.
<You can't build a castle out of soft clay, not one thats going to stand against anything at least.
<You need stone, and stone can't simple be made so easily, not that I've seen at least.
I guess I should say further that, from what Ive seen in my short time on this rock, making stone out of clay is a process which requires great hardship and struggle, of a sort we have not yet had to experience - and I don't believe we will see this transitional process unless such struggle and hardship is felt.
That's just pipedreams IMHO given the current societal context. Self-sufficiency? Hah! The very concept is a joke, unless you've got an army behind you, because basically nobody else is self-sufficient, so guess whats going to happen the fucking instant there's a NEED to be self-sufficient? Being prepared is one thing and becoming some kind of stereotype of the doomsday prepper is another.
And this is where it falls apart, because of what I said above about racial solidarity/explicit racial advocacy being kept away from Europeans.
This is just motivational speaker-tier "positive thinking" shit man… And do you see? Even I am subject to looking at what is probably your attempt at an expression of genuine desire for a more positive cohesive union amongst at, and seeing nothing but the hollow words of Tony Robbins shit. Still, the point stands IMHO.
All valid advice, but not meaningful political action.
Okay. I'm not much one for protesting to be honest.
[–] 18848661? ago
>>13324153
>>13324123
Is he? I don't think so.
I don't see him as an ally at all, because of exactly what I said to you before about zionists.
I had my suspicions for a very long time, but I kept an open mind. Then I saw this.
<Vid related
And all that fell away.
Anyone who telling you "islam is the real problem, not the zionist jews" is not ally - he's compromised, or he was never an ally at all.
I always found him rather less than convincing and a bit of a blow hard to be honest.
I'm more partial to Kais Murros as far as commentary goes, but Spencer has an occasional gem of insight… A shame he's ruined any faith I can or will have in him by shilling for zionism.
Vid related is far more than what you imply my man.
If you don't see that, well… Guess I'm back to calling you an emotionally-compromised idiot or a subversive LARPer, because I can't see any other way you could view
<vid related
and come to the conclusion that such was merely a claim of "israel being a good example" or a "simple objective compliment". This is the man saying "zionist jews are not our existential enemies like muzzies are u guiz!" and that is the objective opposition, its having a fight with your enemies' sword instead of the enemy himself, and nobody who pushes such a narrative line can be trusted. Especially not one with so many ties to zionist jewry, going all the way back to his ((('mentor'))).
[–] 18849334? ago
>>13324204
[–] 18848667? ago
There's other issues with Spencer as well, mind you, but they are somewhat "complex" themselves in terms of how people rationalize narrative positions presented by "intellectuals" and the like.
I understand how people will argue that "holocaust denial is not beneficial to the movement!" or the like, but… If you're not going to deny, you should simply maintain a neutral/silent position. Pushing the jewish narrative on this front is explicitly shooting yourself in the foot, if you're attempting to pursue explicit White advocacy, because jews view explicit White advocacy as a threat, they have established a strong holohoax-based narrative opposing explicit White advocacy and have used it to condition/propagandize, with several major organizations backing that effort.
As such, while it may be true that holohoax denial has bad optical traits, its also strategically a dead-end to embrace that narrative which is most-commonly employed to demonize the very concept of explicit White advocacy regardless of expressed intent on behalf of the advocate in question.