The Green Party gained 20+% of the vote. 30+% among young people.
I can't stop thinking about that we need something radically new in the current century and that old-school right-wing politics isn't enough. What do these populist parties even offer? Just get rid of all immigrants and all will be fine? Then we will continue our current economic policies, our current social policies? That it?
I agree with the Left that a lot of the Populism is just talk to get populist support to gain power. The old Grachian brother and Tribune of the Plebs move.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLNvcTK6DTU
Farage for example is worshipped by many people, despite cucking the BNP, preventing UKIP from developing to something more than just an Anti-EU party and prevented them from becoming more nationalist.
If we can't get rid of refugees and immigrants, because you just get turned from wherever you are on the political spectrum to ultra far right, why not build camp-cities for them in our country and try to extract as much value from them as possible? They are coming here on their own. Why not use them as an economic ressource and exploit it as much as possible for the benefit of us?
And radically invest in Education, public transport, development of Green Spaces, National Parks. Try to become energy independet from fossil fuels ASAP.
And the EU. You know, old school nationalism and trying to take Prussia back won't work. The EU is a good way to fullfill our geopoltiical ambitions. We just need to adjust it in a better direction.
Why does Latvia and Estonia need to be independent? They are just going to be influenced by Russia, the US or China. Why not have a European Empire? I agree with Richard Spencer. Being anti EU is too short-sighted.
I am seriously thinking about these issues and I think that something like this might be much more succesful, than bruteforcing deporation of refugees and migrants, which will just get you hated. I think many Lefties would support that.
Can you talk me out of that?
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[–] 18848191? ago
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Good.
Good.
That's not my point though. You give them economic hardship and they are more willing to see the cause of it, because now its making them personally and in a direct fashion UNCOMFORTABLE.
That's why it happened in Germany with the NSDAP by all accounts!
Why did people SUDDENLY support calling out the jews while embracing a pseudo-leftist (more Third Position really, taking the best from right and left) economic position and a more 'conservative' social position?
It was the economic hardships they were enduring, and the (((causes))) of that, which are the same (((causes))) liable to be behind future hardship in such economic vein, no?
Pic related, as it were.
Yeah, you kind of are, but I understand what you mean, and I didn't mean it as an attack: But what you're saying IS optics-cucking, you want to try to alter your optical presentation to appeal to a different swathe, to take on a different aesthetic suggestive of a new paradigm or approach.
I get that - BUT, what that amounts to, from what I'm seeing, is an alteration of optics such as to avoid aesthetic or context you believe to be harmful to overall goals… You are, in other words, optics cucking.
If it was accidentally? Maybe.
If not, no. I would never vote for someone who said something positive about Israel.
The reasoning behind that being, I've extensive experience with jews in modern and historical contexts, specifically zionists, and all indications that I've seen suggest that you cannot casually get into bed with the zionists - they won't allow that. If they deem you unviable, they will attack you sufficiently to drive you out of a pro-zionist position. If they deem you viable, they will welcome you into bed… And start filming what you do in that bed, the most perverse things you do, the most perverse things they OFFER YOU, and then they will use that against you. Every time, that appears to be how these people roll… So no, I'm not inclined to support someone saying nice things about israel, because it suggests either they don't realize this paradigm is in effect (or arrogantly think they can avoid it where so many others have not), or this paradigm already IS in effect upon them, and they are subverted and ready to betray at the most integral moment.
That pretty much never happens that I've seen. Show me an example on a case-by-base basis, but I can't recall a single time that I saw someone talking about israel's border policy in genuinely objective terms regarding the efficacy, without them in some way being compromised on the issue of zionism.
Please elaborate. I'm not familiar with this meme.
[–] 18848650? ago
Look at how people treat Richard Spencer, who is an extremely intelligent guy with profund insights on the political Zeitgeist.
He is a much better Intellectual than a Leader for Protests.
I really like his "Leftists are sorta right in the wrong way and for the wrong reasons" takes.
Literally happened with Spencer. People attack him just because he says that Israel might be a good example on how to do things. People get triggered over this simple objective compliments.
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Forgot my pic.